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<sandro> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2012Jan/0028.html
<sandro> Guest: Lee Feigenbaum
<sandro> Guest: James Gardner
<sandro> Guest: Makx Dekkers
<sandro> Guest: Kevin Simkins
<sandro> Present: Anne_Washington, Bernadette_Hyland, Brand_Niemann, Daniel_Bennett, Ed_Summers, Gannon_Dick, George_Thomas, James_Forrester, Jeanne Holm, John Erickson, Martín_Álvarez, Sandro_Hawke
<sandro> chair: jeanne
<sandro> Scribe: sandro
(Scribe set to Sandro Hawke)
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13:58:09 <sandro> sandro has changed the topic to: eGov IG - Call +1.617.761.6200 code 3468 (EGOV) - Platforms for Open Data
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14:01:48 <olyerickson> Hi everyone!
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14:01:51 <olyerickson> yep!
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14:02:58 <sandro> jeanne: Working on a new co-chair. I'm looking forward to that being completed very soon.
Jeanne Holm: Working on a new co-chair. I'm looking forward to that being completed very soon. ←
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14:03:17 <citizencontact> .aadd is me Daniel Bennett
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14:03:22 <sandro> jeanne: When we have that, we can dig in on the plans from our TPAC meeting
Jeanne Holm: When we have that, we can dig in on the plans from our TPAC meeting ←
14:03:22 <jdforrester> Argh.
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14:03:47 <olyerickson> zakim, who is on the phone?
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14:03:51 <sandro> Jeanne: I'll email out some details about upcoming meetings, too.
Jeanne Holm: I'll email out some details about upcoming meetings, too. ←
14:04:16 <citizencontact> .aadd is Daniel Bennett
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14:04:25 <james_gardner> James Gardner (from the OKF present)
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14:04:35 <sandro> zakim, aacc is bhyland
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14:04:46 <sandro> zakim, aass is DanielBennett
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14:04:49 <brand> Brand Niemann (Semantic Community) present
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14:04:51 <sandro> zakim, aadd is DanielBennett
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<sandro> Topic: Open Government Platform
14:05:19 <sandro> jeanne: Status check on US+India open data platform
Jeanne Holm: Status check on US+India open data platform ←
14:05:24 <sandro> jeanne: ckan
Jeanne Holm: ckan ←
14:05:33 <sandro> jeanne: connecting with other folks, too.
Jeanne Holm: connecting with other folks, too. ←
14:05:38 <james_gardner> CKAN Presentation Plan: http://ckan.okfnpad.org/egov
James Gardner: CKAN Presentation Plan: http://ckan.okfnpad.org/egov ←
14:06:01 <olyerickson> We need to give more feedback ;)
John Erickson: We need to give more feedback ;) ←
14:06:06 <sandro> jeanne: apprreciate feedback on github release
Jeanne Holm: apprreciate feedback on github release ←
14:06:06 <Jeanne> http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/12/05/datagov-goes-global
Jeanne Holm: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/12/05/datagov-goes-global ←
14:07:05 <sandro> jeanne: blog post, "data.gov goes global", platform, uses drupal
Jeanne Holm: blog post, "data.gov goes global", platform, uses drupal ←
14:07:21 <Jeanne> http://www.data.gov/opengovplatform
Jeanne Holm: http://www.data.gov/opengovplatform ←
14:07:52 <Jeanne> https://github.com/opengovplatform/opengovplatform
Jeanne Holm: https://github.com/opengovplatform/opengovplatform ←
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14:09:19 <sandro> jeanne: All the component pieces are or will be available
Jeanne Holm: All the component pieces are or will be available ←
14:09:39 <sandro> jeanne: Gov't of India will be releasing the website part of it.
Jeanne Holm: Gov't of India will be releasing the website part of it. ←
14:10:13 <sandro> jeanne: Anyone can create these themselves, but we wanted to make sure people who wanted wholeheartedly embrace the platform, it would be there.
Jeanne Holm: Anyone can create these themselves, but we wanted to make sure people who wanted wholeheartedly embrace the platform, it would be there. ←
14:10:18 <olyerickson> Comment: People should really take a look at OGPL, there are some cool features incl. workflow, etc
John Erickson: People should really take a look at OGPL, there are some cool features incl. workflow, etc ←
14:10:28 <sandro> jeanne: 3rd piece is Communities (of Interest)
Jeanne Holm: 3rd piece is Communities (of Interest) ←
14:10:36 <sandro> ... just launched "Education" community
... just launched "Education" community ←
14:10:48 <sandro> s/Comment://
14:11:21 <sandro> ... we want the Communities part in the base, and will put that out soon
... we want the Communities part in the base, and will put that out soon ←
14:11:33 <sandro> ... So, we've got those three parts
... So, we've got those three parts ←
14:11:54 <sandro> ... We're working to get these into the hands of developers who can use it, improve it.
... We're working to get these into the hands of developers who can use it, improve it. ←
14:12:26 <olyerickson> There has been very little activity on OGPL Github issues list, people need to be posting there https://github.com/opengovplatform/opengovplatform/issues
John Erickson: There has been very little activity on OGPL Github issues list, people need to be posting there https://github.com/opengovplatform/opengovplatform/issues ←
14:12:34 <sandro> ... In our own case, for data.gov, we have a lot amount of geospacial data, and use socrata (for interaction with data, on the site), maybe other commercial add-ons -- fitting in with Open Source platform.
... In our own case, for data.gov, we have a lot amount of geospacial data, and use socrata (for interaction with data, on the site), maybe other commercial add-ons -- fitting in with Open Source platform. ←
14:12:51 <sandro> ... Hoping to have this operational by June.
... Hoping to have this operational by June. ←
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14:13:15 <edsu> zakim, IPcaller.a is edsu
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14:13:32 <sandro> ,,,any questions?
,,,any questions? ←
14:13:39 <sandro> bhyland: Who is the "we" there...?
Bernadette Hyland: Who is the "we" there...? ←
14:14:07 <sandro> ... communities and open-source projects often have people's names associated with them. this seems a bit antiseptic for open source.
... communities and open-source projects often have people's names associated with them. this seems a bit antiseptic for open source. ←
14:14:26 <olyerickson> Link on OGPL site to NIC appears broken; should it be http://www.nic.in/
John Erickson: Link on OGPL site to NIC appears broken; should it be http://www.nic.in/ ←
14:15:22 <sandro> jeanne: Good point, thanks. "We" on the US side is the 5-person data.gov team, ...
Jeanne Holm: Good point, thanks. "We" on the US side is the 5-person data.gov team, ... ←
14:15:54 <sandro> ... Chris M. uploaded the content, but .. etc..
... Chris M. uploaded the content, but .. etc.. ←
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14:16:01 <olyerickson> q+
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14:16:14 <citizencontact> please mute if not talking
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14:16:21 <olyerickson> zakim, mute me.
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14:16:35 <sandro> bhyland: I'd appreciate seeing the names of people who can be contacted, for actually open source collaboration.
Bernadette Hyland: I'd appreciate seeing the names of people who can be contacted, for actually open source collaboration. ←
14:17:38 <olyerickson> q?
John Erickson: q? ←
14:18:02 <sandro> jeanne: mailing list next week.
Jeanne Holm: mailing list next week. ←
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14:19:04 <sandro> Arg -- John, you're breaking up again!
Arg -- John, you're breaking up again! ←
14:19:10 <sandro> (now you're back)
(now you're back) ←
14:19:47 <brand> Do you have Data Scientists on the Team? I am working with a Community of Practice on Analytics for Government that is working on the Data.gov and other public data sets in this way
Brand Niemann: Do you have Data Scientists on the Team? I am working with a Community of Practice on Analytics for Government that is working on the Data.gov and other public data sets in this way ←
14:20:02 <sandro> olyerickson: One of my colleagues is having trouble interacting with the developers, not getting feedback when they raise issues, etc --- this is important to getting the community running.
John Erickson: One of my colleagues is having trouble interacting with the developers, not getting feedback when they raise issues, etc --- this is important to getting the community running. ←
14:20:09 <olyerickson> zakim, mute me please.
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14:20:17 <olyerickson> zakim, mute me.
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14:20:52 <sandro> bhyland, feedback has to be withing 48 hrs.
bhyland, feedback has to be withing 48 hrs. ←
14:21:08 <olyerickson> Community needs to provide timely feedback; team needs to respond
John Erickson: Community needs to provide timely feedback; team needs to respond ←
14:21:44 <olyerickson> Brand: jst posted w.r.t. data scientist engagement
Brand Niemann: jst posted w.r.t. data scientist engagement [ Scribe Assist by John Erickson ] ←
14:21:52 <olyerickson> ... book on data science
John Erickson: ... book on data science ←
14:21:58 <olyerickson> ... looking to build community
John Erickson: ... looking to build community ←
14:22:07 <olyerickson> Q: what do we mean by "data science"
John Erickson: Q: what do we mean by "data science" ←
14:22:21 <olyerickson> ... scientist data science or analytics data science
John Erickson: ... scientist data science or analytics data science ←
14:22:30 <brand> http://semanticommunity.info/AOL_Government/Data_Science_for_the_Government_Community
Brand Niemann: http://semanticommunity.info/AOL_Government/Data_Science_for_the_Government_Community ←
14:22:30 <olyerickson> yes
John Erickson: yes ←
14:22:45 <olyerickson> any more great suggestions?>
John Erickson: any more great suggestions?> ←
14:22:52 <olyerickson> (none provided)
John Erickson: (none provided) ←
14:23:08 <olyerickson> moving forward, partrnering with "a couple" governments
John Erickson: moving forward, partrnering with "a couple" governments ←
14:23:18 <olyerickson> NIC (India) will be leading htis
John Erickson: NIC (India) will be leading htis ←
14:23:36 <olyerickson> hopefully developing country/countries
John Erickson: hopefully developing country/countries ←
14:24:07 <olyerickson> Another thing: for any who have done open data site, know that policy is half the work
John Erickson: Another thing: for any who have done open data site, know that policy is half the work ←
14:24:24 <olyerickson> ... will be putting up examples of things to think about w.er.t. policy
John Erickson: ... will be putting up examples of things to think about w.er.t. policy ←
14:24:42 <olyerickson> ... need to put up case studies, exemplars
John Erickson: ... need to put up case studies, exemplars ←
14:24:56 <olyerickson> ... successful open govt initives (not jst open data)
John Erickson: ... successful open govt initives (not jst open data) ←
14:25:14 <olyerickson> .... ?? from ??? university will be invited to speak on eGov in future
John Erickson: .... ?? from ??? university will be invited to speak on eGov in future ←
14:25:29 <olyerickson> ... would be helped to have checklist, not jst the code
John Erickson: ... would be helped to have checklist, not jst the code ←
14:25:41 <olyerickson> @bhyland strongly in support
John Erickson: @bhyland strongly in support ←
14:25:42 <Jeanne> Tomasz Jankoski from UN University
Jeanne Holm: Tomasz Janowski from UN University ←
14:26:36 <olyerickson> ... need to bring out use cases, identify value proposition, what are the examples/exemplars
John Erickson: ... need to bring out use cases, identify value proposition, what are the examples/exemplars ←
14:26:47 <sandro> s/Tomasz Jankoski/Tomasz Janowski/
14:27:10 <jdforrester> Zakim, q+
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14:27:10 <Zakim> I see olyerickson, jdforrester on the speaker queue
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14:27:14 <olyerickson> ... EU-funded orbit have made good progress, but had guidance/help
John Erickson: ... EU-funded orbit have made good progress, but had guidance/help ←
14:27:24 <olyerickson> q-
John Erickson: q- ←
14:27:45 <olyerickson> re virtual, yes --- there better be ;)
John Erickson: re virtual, yes --- there better be ;) ←
14:28:32 <olyerickson> zakim, am I muted?
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14:29:21 <sandro> jdforrester: We've made lots of progress on policy, happy to share. Some nervousness about which way to go with linked data
James Forrester: We've made lots of progress on policy, happy to share. Some nervousness about which way to go with linked data ←
14:29:22 <edsu> Jim
Ed Summers: Jim ←
14:29:34 <jdforrester> James. :-)
James Forrester: James. :-) ←
14:29:39 <edsu> :)
Ed Summers: :) ←
14:29:42 <james_gardner> Hi James, nice to see our paths crossing again.
James Gardner: Hi James, nice to see our paths crossing again. ←
14:29:49 <jdforrester> (Hey James G.)
James Forrester: (Hey James G.) ←
14:30:02 <sandro> jeanne: collecting case studies, value proposition.
Jeanne Holm: collecting case studies, value proposition. ←
14:30:50 <sandro> jeanne: There tends to need to be one person who gathers/edits/re-distributes -- coordinating
Bernadette Hyland: There tends to need to be one person who gathers/edits/re-distributes -- coordinating ←
14:30:59 <sandro> s/jeanne/bhyland
14:31:10 <sandro> bhyland: James, if you have stuff to share, please do.
Bernadette Hyland: James, if you have stuff to share, please do. ←
14:31:40 <sandro> bhyland: heard people saying "No, I don't want white papers. A short briefing, with links, is better."
Bernadette Hyland: heard people saying "No, I don't want white papers. A short briefing, with links, is better." ←
14:32:16 <olyerickson> James, your voice broke up
John Erickson: James, your voice broke up ←
14:32:28 <sandro> jdforrester, sorry, your audio is breaking up
jdforrester, sorry, your audio is breaking up ←
14:32:33 <jdforrester> Sorry for audio issues.
James Forrester: Sorry for audio issues. ←
14:32:52 <jdforrester> For the minutes: Very happy to speak off-line about what works well in terms of policy form-factor for this.
James Forrester: For the minutes: Very happy to speak off-line about what works well in terms of policy form-factor for this. ←
14:32:57 <sandro> bhyland: Maybe email team-gld-chairs@w3.org
Bernadette Hyland: Maybe email team-gld-chairs@w3.org ←
14:33:06 <edsu> q+
Ed Summers: q+ ←
14:33:10 <jdforrester> q-
James Forrester: q- ←
14:33:13 <sandro> jeanne: Other comments/thoughts on Open Government Platform
Jeanne Holm: Other comments/thoughts on Open Government Platform ←
14:33:30 <olyerickson> No further suggestions from TWC RPI
John Erickson: No further suggestions from TWC RPI ←
14:33:40 <sandro> edsu: Sorry I'm late, but did you talk about conversations with Rufus & CKAN folks?
Ed Summers: Sorry I'm late, but did you talk about conversations with Rufus & CKAN folks? ←
14:33:49 <sandro> jeanne: Next on the agenda....!
Jeanne Holm: Next on the agenda....! ←
14:34:18 <sandro> jeanne: The early data.gov folks were not aware of ckan. Might have used it, if they had been.
Jeanne Holm: The early data.gov folks were not aware of ckan. Might how used it, if they had been. ←
14:34:42 <sandro> jeanne: But now we're coordinating. follow-on meetings.
Jeanne Holm: But now we're coordinating. follow-on meetings. ←
14:35:10 <sandro> topic: CKAN
14:35:26 <james_gardner> http://ckan.okfnpad.org/egov
James Gardner: http://ckan.okfnpad.org/egov ←
14:36:05 <olyerickson> Some are familiar, some aren't
John Erickson: Some are familiar, some aren't ←
14:36:07 <sandro> james_gardner: Have familiar are folks with ckan
James Gardner: Have familiar are folks with ckan ←
14:36:23 <edsu> brief overview would be good
Ed Summers: brief overview would be good ←
14:36:29 <sandro> s/have/how/
14:36:53 <sandro> james_gardner: I work for Open Knowledge Foundation.
James Gardner: I work for Open Knowledge Foundation. ←
14:37:10 <sandro> james_gardner: use slides at http://jimmyg.org/download/egov/1-okf.pdf to start
James Gardner: use slides at http://jimmyg.org/download/egov/1-okf.pdf to start ←
14:37:17 <brand> See http://semanticommunity.info/Build_CKAN_in_the_Cloud for my involvement
Brand Niemann: See http://semanticommunity.info/Build_CKAN_in_the_Cloud for my involvement ←
14:37:41 <sandro> james_gardner: Find, share data, collaborate, ecosystem
James Gardner: Find, share data, collaborate, ecosystem ←
14:38:04 <sandro> james_gardner: datahub.org public contrib site
James Gardner: datahub.org public contrib site ←
14:38:34 <sandro> james_gardner: much like socrata functionality. fully open source.
James Gardner: much like socrata functionality. fully open source. ←
14:39:24 <sandro> james_gardner: Able to search datasets by geo bounding box
James Gardner: Able to search datasets by geo bounding box ←
14:40:14 <citizencontact> just retry/reload
Daniel Bennett: just retry/reload ←
14:40:53 <sandro> james_gardner: Slide 4, other catalogs, about where data comes from.
James Gardner: Slide 4, other catalogs, about where data comes from. ←
14:41:04 <sandro> ... helping with ecosystem
... helping with ecosystem ←
14:41:22 <sandro> ... "is it open data" to help presure folks to open data
... "is it open data" to help presure folks to open data ←
14:41:37 <sandro> ... Loads of people have built apps on this
... Loads of people have built apps on this ←
14:42:00 <sandro> ... 30 instances world-wide, eg data.gov.uk, manchester, etc
... 30 instances world-wide, eg data.gov.uk, manchester, etc ←
14:42:13 <edsu> http://publicdata.eu/
Ed Summers: http://publicdata.eu/ ←
14:42:14 <sandro> ... RDF export of certain common dataset properties (side 7)
... RDF export of certain common dataset properties (side 7) ←
14:42:25 <sandro> ... uses dcat
... uses dcat ←
14:42:41 <sandro> ... harvesting architecture
... harvesting architecture ←
14:43:17 <sandro> ... big problem -- catalogs tend to be silos of their own data. ckan has harvesting interface, where you register a data source and we'll go get the data out.
... big problem -- catalogs tend to be silos of their own data. ckan has harvesting interface, where you register a data source and we'll go get the data out. ←
14:43:32 <olyerickson> Are we supposed to be clicking through all these PDFs?
John Erickson: Are we supposed to be clicking through all these PDFs? ←
14:43:37 <sandro> olyerickson, yes.
olyerickson, yes. ←
14:44:09 <sandro> james_gardner: We can write a harvester for catalogs pretty easily, in general.
James Gardner: We can write a harvester for catalogs pretty easily, in general. ←
14:44:56 <olyerickson> What slide are we on?
John Erickson: What slide are we on? ←
14:44:59 <sandro> james_gardner: REST API, CVS, ... rich publishing workflows, drupal integration
James Gardner: REST API, CVS, ... rich publishing workflows, drupal integration ←
14:45:11 <sandro> james_gardner: might be scope to collaborate there.
James Gardner: might be scope to collaborate there. ←
14:45:24 <sandro> ... that's the quick overview. Questions...?
... that's the quick overview. Questions...? ←
14:45:33 <Zakim> -bhyland
Zakim IRC Bot: -bhyland ←
14:45:41 <sandro> bhyland: thanks!
Bernadette Hyland: thanks! ←
14:46:24 <sandro> brand: Lucy Chambers, your community person, is one of your strongest features. And Sam, and Mark. Half the team is Community Development folks.
Brand Niemann: Lucy Chambers, your community person, is one of your strongest features. And Sam, and Mark. Half the team is Community Development folks. ←
14:46:38 <sandro> brand: Plus half-dev/have community-coordinator people.
Brand Niemann: Plus half-dev/have community-coordinator people. ←
14:46:47 <bhyland> @jdforrester - what is the size of the core OKF team, including developers/contributors & Lucy type people?
Bernadette Hyland: @jdforrester - what is the size of the core OKF team, including developers/contributors & Lucy type people? ←
14:47:06 <jdforrester> bhyland, I think you mean @james_gardner. :-)
James Forrester: bhyland, I think you mean @james_gardner. :-) ←
14:47:12 <sandro> james_gardner: And Sam, and Mark. Half the team is Community Development folks. (3-4 of ten) Plus half-dev/have community-coordinator people.
James Gardner: And Sam, and Mark. Half the team is Community Development folks. (3-4 of ten) Plus half-dev/have community-coordinator people. ←
14:47:26 <sandro> james_gardner: For some people, it is their full-time job.
James Gardner: For some people, it is their full-time job. ←
14:47:33 <sandro> bhyland: Funding?
Bernadette Hyland: Funding? ←
14:47:50 <sandro> james_gardner: Some Grant funding, eg Rufus from Shuttlesworth Foundation
James Gardner: Some Grant funding, eg Rufus from Shuttlesworth Foundation ←
14:48:02 <edsu> q+ to ask about harvesting
Ed Summers: q+ to ask about harvesting ←
14:48:12 <olyerickson> zakim, unmute me.
John Erickson: zakim, unmute me. ←
14:48:12 <Zakim> olyerickson should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should no longer be muted ←
14:48:15 <olyerickson> q+
John Erickson: q+ ←
14:48:27 <citizencontact> Darth?
Daniel Bennett: Darth? ←
14:48:27 <sandro> james_gardner: Our main goal is to see the spread of open data. People who might seem to be rivals, often we can easily turn into allies and work together
James Gardner: Our main goal is to see the spread of open data. People who might seem to be rivals, often we can easily turn into allies and work together ←
14:48:47 <edsu> olyerickson: i think you might need to mute :)
John Erickson: i think you might need to mute :) [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
14:48:52 <olyerickson> arrghh
John Erickson: arrghh ←
14:48:57 <George> q+ - module CKAN module update for D7?
George Thomas: q+ - module CKAN module update for D7? ←
14:48:58 <olyerickson> zakim, mute me.
John Erickson: zakim, mute me. ←
14:49:00 <bhyland> @jdforrester, OKF and CKAN are the gold standard for open content development & community building.
Bernadette Hyland: @james_gardner, OKF and CKAN are the gold standard for open content development & community building. ←
14:49:01 <Zakim> olyerickson should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should now be muted ←
14:49:06 <George> q+
George Thomas: q+ ←
14:49:12 <olyerickson> q-
John Erickson: q- ←
14:49:18 <sandro> (Yes, it was you, olyerickson :-( )
(Yes, it was you, olyerickson :-( ) ←
14:49:24 <edsu> olyerickson: didn't want you not to ask a question though :(
John Erickson: didn't want you not to ask a question though :( [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
14:49:37 <sandro> Jeanne: james_gardner can you explain how the community engagement occurs?
Jeanne Holm: james_gardner can you explain how the community engagement occurs? ←
14:50:01 <olyerickson> Question: What is the status of the follw-up to the (great) catalog metadata workshop in Edinburgh (May 2011)
John Erickson: Question: What is the status of the follw-up to the (great) catalog metadata workshop in Edinburgh (May 2011) ←
14:50:09 <olyerickson> s/wat/what/
John Erickson: s/wat/what/ (warning: replacement failed) ←
14:50:20 <olyerickson> s/Wat/What/
John Erickson: s/Wat/What/ (warning: replacement failed) ←
14:50:23 <sandro> james_gardner: On developer level, events in london or around the world, we run into people who are doing similar things. well-architected plug-in architecture.
James Gardner: On developer level, events in london or around the world, we run into people who are doing similar things. well-architected plug-in architecture. ←
14:50:33 <sandro> james_gardner: plus people start installing it, and have questions.
James Gardner: plus people start installing it, and have questions. ←
14:50:58 <olyerickson> Question: Is James aware of W3C GLD WG pushing foward with DCAT draft
John Erickson: Question: Is James aware of W3C GLD WG pushing foward with DCAT draft ←
14:51:04 <sandro> james_gardner: Open Government Conferences. All through networking. Strong community basis, so we find out about stuff pretty quickly.
James Gardner: Open Government Conferences. All through networking. Strong community basis, so we find out about stuff pretty quickly. ←
14:51:25 <sandro> ... mission is about open data, not just ckan.
... mission is about open data, not just ckan. ←
14:51:52 <sandro> james_gardner: datacatalogs.org
James Gardner: datacatalogs.org ←
14:52:23 <olyerickson> Partial answer
John Erickson: Partial answer ←
14:52:29 <bhyland> @sandro - so when you download the 7.1MB file James provided, did you get only one page too?
Bernadette Hyland: @sandro - so when you download the 7.1MB file James provided, did you get only one page too? ←
14:52:39 <sandro> Jeanne: Great. That answers what happened following up the catalog metadata workshop in eninborough
Jeanne Holm: Great. That answers what happened following up the catalog metadata workshop in Edinborough ←
14:52:46 <sandro> s/enin/Edin/
14:52:47 <bhyland> @sandro, I didn't get a timeout, it looks like file is only 1 page, yes?
Bernadette Hyland: @sandro, I didn't get a timeout, it looks like file is only 1 page, yes? ←
14:52:56 <olyerickson> Not right now
John Erickson: Not right now ←
14:52:58 <citizencontact> What version of HTML do the sites use?
Daniel Bennett: What version of HTML do the sites use? ←
14:53:07 <olyerickson> Ekiga is flakey :(
John Erickson: Ekiga is flakey :( ←
14:53:10 <sandro> bhyland, only one worked for me, and it was only one page, yes.
bhyland, only one worked for me, and it was only one page, yes. ←
14:53:26 <olyerickson> DCAT moving forward?
John Erickson: DCAT moving forward? ←
14:53:28 <gdick> me too 7.1 MB 1 page
Gannon Dick: me too 7.1 MB 1 page ←
14:53:39 <sandro> james_gardner: What's the intention of Open Govet Platform -- collab with CKAN.
James Gardner: What's the intention of Open Govet Platform -- collab with CKAN. ←
14:53:39 <olyerickson> can I try speaking>
John Erickson: can I try speaking> ←
14:53:53 <citizencontact> hmmmm
Daniel Bennett: hmmmm ←
14:54:43 <sandro> Jeanne: We had a call last week with Rufus, and 3-4 others from CKAN, to get OGP folks familiar with CKAN. Trying to figure out how to get synnergy. Folks are looking at this, will report back. In exploration phase.
Jeanne Holm: We had a call last week with Rufus, and 3-4 others from CKAN, to get OGP folks familiar with CKAN. Trying to figure out how to get synnergy. Folks are looking at this, will report back. In exploration phase. ←
14:55:08 <citizencontact> looks like RDFa
Daniel Bennett: looks like RDFa ←
14:55:21 <olyerickson> @bhyland you have to go to the Titanpad aURL
John Erickson: @bhyland you have to go to the Titanpad aURL ←
14:55:24 <edsu> q+
Ed Summers: q+ ←
14:55:31 <olyerickson> in there is a list of severl slides
John Erickson: in there is a list of severl slides ←
14:55:35 <Zakim> -LeeF
Zakim IRC Bot: -LeeF ←
14:55:56 <sandro> edsu: thanks for the nice overview. I've been following ckan for some years, but I didnt know some of those details.
Ed Summers: thanks for the nice overview. I've been following ckan for some years, but I didnt know some of those details. ←
14:56:02 <citizencontact> with XHTML strict or not so
Daniel Bennett: with XHTML strict or not so ←
14:56:17 <sandro> ... I remember from the past you had lots of description of where data was on the web, but not necessarily the data itself
... I remember from the past you had lots of description of where data was on the web, but not necessarily the data itself ←
14:57:09 <olyerickson> Frustrated that it doesn't allow RDF bulk load
John Erickson: Frustrated that it doesn't allow RDF bulk load ←
14:57:10 <sandro> james_gardner: True. We're moving to the WebStore, with REST API, so folks can build more apps based on the data -- not just quality metadata any more.
James Gardner: True. We're moving to the WebStore, with REST API, so folks can build more apps based on the data -- not just quality metadata any more. ←
14:57:23 <sandro> james_gardner: WebStore is a CKAN extension, like pretty much everything else.
James Gardner: WebStore is a CKAN extension, like pretty much everything else. ←
14:57:37 <sandro> ... might move into core at some point
... might move into core at some point ←
14:57:47 <sandro> james_gardner: It's a different github repository
James Gardner: It's a different github repository ←
14:58:08 <james_gardner> http://wiki.ckan.org/List_of_Extensions
James Gardner: http://wiki.ckan.org/List_of_Extensions ←
14:58:25 <sandro> lod2
lod2 ←
14:59:17 <sandro> james_gardner: We can ckan-ify lots of different data sources view the ckan harvesting interface.
James Gardner: We can ckan-ify lots of different data sources via the ckan harvesting interface. ←
14:59:30 <bhyland> s/jdforrester/james_gardner
14:59:32 <sandro> s/view/via
15:00:02 <bhyland> s/jdforrester/james_gardner/
15:00:02 <Zakim> - +1.509.464.aaff
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.509.464.aaff ←
15:00:32 <sandro> james_gardner: We just write two hook functions for converting from other data sources.
James Gardner: We just write two hook functions for converting from other data sources. ←
15:00:58 <sandro> james_gardner: plus dcat import and export
James Gardner: plus dcat import and export ←
15:01:02 <olyerickson> Whoa, repeat that bit about DCAT inpout./export
John Erickson: Whoa, repeat that bit about DCAT inpout./export ←
15:01:22 <citizencontact> General invitation to all for Washington, DC event on Feb. 2nd (note that there should be a webcast) http://cha.house.gov/about/contact-us/legislative-data-conference
Daniel Bennett: General invitation to all for Washington, DC event on Feb. 2nd (note that there should be a webcast) http://cha.house.gov/about/contact-us/legislative-data-conference ←
15:01:30 <james_gardner> https://github.com/okfn/
James Gardner: https://github.com/okfn/ ←
15:02:04 <james_gardner> https://github.com/okfn/ckanext-harvest
James Gardner: https://github.com/okfn/ckanext-harvest ←
15:02:22 <olyerickson> Question: How are you getting your havesting targets?
John Erickson: Question: How are you getting your havesting targets? ←
15:02:31 <sandro> james_gardner: We can certainly do harvester to share data with your platform
James Gardner: We can certainly do harvester to share data with your platform ←
15:02:49 <bhyland> @james_gardner - thanks for a great detailed talk on CKAN. I'm glad to have connected with you. I have to drop off the call because I have another call.
Bernadette Hyland: @james_gardner - thanks for a great detailed talk on CKAN. I'm glad to have connected with you. I have to drop off the call because I have another call. ←
15:03:05 <annew> exit
Anne Washington: exit ←
15:03:20 <sandro> james_gardner: moving more toward jsonp/REST
James Gardner: moving more toward jsonp/REST ←
15:03:29 <olyerickson> what is james' email
John Erickson: what is james' email ←
15:03:32 <citizencontact> hi bye anne
Daniel Bennett: hi bye anne ←
15:03:38 <james_gardner> james.gardner@okfn.org
James Gardner: james.gardner@okfn.org ←
15:03:48 <sandro> Jeanne: more questions for james?
Jeanne Holm: more questions for james? ←
15:03:58 <olyerickson> Thanks, James!
John Erickson: Thanks, James! ←
15:04:03 <sandro> Jeanne: Thanks! Happy we're collaborating!
Jeanne Holm: Thanks! Happy we're collaborating! ←
15:04:07 <sandro> (indeed, thanks!)
(indeed, thanks!) ←
15:04:30 <Zakim> + +44.786.783.aahh
Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.786.783.aahh ←
15:04:30 <Makx> can i report on ADMS in europe
Makx Dekkers: can i report on ADMS in europe ←
15:04:36 <sandro> Jeanne: For this IG, I'm looking at the major components. Not just open data, even though we're kind of self-selecting for that right now.
Jeanne Holm: For this IG, I'm looking at the major components. Not just open data, even though we're kind of self-selecting for that right now. ←
15:04:40 <Zakim> -George_Thomas
Zakim IRC Bot: -George_Thomas ←
15:04:45 <sandro> jeanne: Maybe more on *policy*
Jeanne Holm: Maybe more on *policy* ←
15:05:17 <sandro> jeanne: I'll put time on the next agenda for folks to report out on what their doing. If you have a topic, let me know.
Jeanne Holm: I'll put time on the next agenda for folks to report out on what their doing. If you have a topic, let me know. ←
15:05:18 <olyerickson> Is this the current address for James_Gardner? james@3aims.com
John Erickson: Is this the current address for James_Gardner? james@3aims.com ←
15:05:26 <edsu> another area we could collaborate is the policy/case_study content, i bet okfn has collected some of this already
Ed Summers: another area we could collaborate is the policy/case_study content, i bet okfn has collected some of this already ←
15:05:36 <sandro> Jeanne: Other topics?
Jeanne Holm: Other topics? ←
15:05:42 <citizencontact> hi
Daniel Bennett: hi ←
15:05:47 <jdforrester> I definitely think a move to capture policy areas as well would be helpful.
James Forrester: I definitely think a move to capture policy areas as well would be helpful. ←
15:05:49 <james_gardner> james@3aims.com works too, but my OKF address is james.gardner@okfn.org, probably best to use that.
James Gardner: james@3aims.com works too, but my OKF address is james.gardner@okfn.org, probably best to use that. ←
15:05:53 <edsu> i'd like to hear about the state of dcat at some point
Ed Summers: i'd like to hear about the state of dcat at some point ←
15:05:55 <jdforrester> (Sorry audio still an issue.)
James Forrester: (Sorry audio still an issue.) ←
15:06:03 <olyerickson> Suggestion: OGPL status/extensions
John Erickson: Suggestion: OGPL status/extensions ←
15:06:18 <citizencontact> what are the deliverables?
Daniel Bennett: what are the deliverables? ←
15:06:42 <olyerickson> @citizencontact this is an IG so no deliverables
John Erickson: @citizencontact this is an IG so no deliverables ←
15:06:54 <sandro> Jeanne: New poll on meeting times. Might do two meetings per month, but with different times, with one more suitable in other parts of the world.
Jeanne Holm: New poll on meeting times. Might do two meetings per month, but with different times, with one more suitable in other parts of the world. ←
15:07:04 <citizencontact> announcement
Daniel Bennett: announcement ←
15:07:17 <Makx> Can I talk about ADMS?
Makx Dekkers: Can I talk about ADMS? ←
15:07:24 <citizencontact> +citizencontact
Daniel Bennett: +citizencontact ←
15:07:27 <sandro> ed: Planning anything for the Web Conference?
Ed Summers: Planning anything for the Web Conference? ←
15:07:38 <sandro> (The Web Conference is *NOT* a W3C thing.)
(The Web Conference is *NOT* a W3C thing.) ←
15:08:19 <citizencontact> add to queue please. forgot the format
Daniel Bennett: add to queue please. forgot the format ←
15:08:47 <olyerickson> zakim, add citizencontact to the queue.
John Erickson: zakim, add citizencontact to the queue. ←
15:08:47 <Zakim> I don't understand 'add citizencontact to the queue', olyerickson
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'add citizencontact to the queue', olyerickson ←
15:09:05 <jdforrester> citizencontact, "+ q" without the space.
James Forrester: citizencontact, "+ q" without the space. ←
15:09:11 <citizencontact> +q
Daniel Bennett: +q ←
15:09:14 <citizencontact> thanks
Daniel Bennett: thanks ←
15:09:32 <brand> I suggest we work for a balance between technology, policy, and applications that provide ROI in our meetings and products
Brand Niemann: I suggest we work for a balance between technology, policy, and applications that provide ROI in our meetings and products ←
15:09:43 <edsu> Jeanne: that's great news
Jeanne Holm: that's great news [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
15:09:56 <olyerickson> Please repeat where?
John Erickson: Please repeat where? ←
15:10:02 <edsu> july 10-12, washington dc?
Ed Summers: july 10-12, washington dc? ←
15:10:06 <citizencontact> link to information please
Daniel Bennett: link to information please ←
15:10:19 <citizencontact> thanks for the save the date
Daniel Bennett: thanks for the save the date ←
15:10:35 <Jeanne> Save the date July 10-12 in Washington DC for the next International Open Government Data conference.
Jeanne Holm: Save the date July 10-12 in Washington DC for the next International Open Government Data conference. ←
15:11:02 <sandro> edsu, it's "International World Wide Web Conferences Committee" as per http://www2012.wwwconference.org
edsu, it's "International World Wide Web Conferences Committee" as per http://www2012.wwwconference.org ←
15:11:18 <Makx> I wanted to share that ADMS is open for public comment: http://joinup.ec.europa.eu/asset/adms/release/08
Makx Dekkers: I wanted to share that ADMS is open for public comment: http://joinup.ec.europa.eu/asset/adms/release/08 ←
15:11:18 <olyerickson> @Jeanne I'll make sure we have ;lots to show
John Erickson: @Jeanne I'll make sure we have ;lots to show ←
15:11:24 <sandro> Jeanne: Other announcements
Jeanne Holm: Other announcements ←
15:11:26 <sandro> q?
q? ←
15:11:39 <sandro> q- edsu
q- edsu ←
15:11:54 <sandro> q- George
q- George ←
15:11:56 <Makx> q
Makx Dekkers: q ←
15:11:58 <sandro> ack citizencontact
ack citizencontact ←
15:12:00 <Zakim> -jdforrester
Zakim IRC Bot: -jdforrester ←
15:12:06 <jdforrester> Bah.
James Forrester: Bah. ←
15:12:13 <sandro> citizencontact: this is Daniel Bennett. Feb 2nd
Daniel Bennett: this is Daniel Bennett. Feb 2nd ←
15:12:29 <Zakim> +??P42
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P42 ←
15:12:31 <sandro> ... Data and Document transparency by (US) Congress.
... Data and Document transparency by (US) Congress. ←
15:12:33 <jdforrester> Zakim, p42 is me
James Forrester: Zakim, p42 is me ←
15:12:33 <Zakim> sorry, jdforrester, I do not recognize a party named 'p42'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, jdforrester, I do not recognize a party named 'p42' ←
15:12:36 <jdforrester> Zakim, ??p42 is me
James Forrester: Zakim, ??p42 is me ←
15:12:37 <Zakim> +jdforrester; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +jdforrester; got it ←
15:12:44 <sandro> ... I'll be on the panel talking about HTML5 and Video
... I'll be on the panel talking about HTML5 and Video ←
15:12:54 <edsu> sandro: thanks re: wwwconference.org ; you learn something every day :)
Sandro Hawke: thanks re: wwwconference.org ; you learn something every day :) [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
15:13:26 <edsu> interplanetary parliaments?
Ed Summers: interplanetary parliaments? ←
15:13:36 <edsu> did i hear that right?
Ed Summers: did i hear that right? ←
15:13:38 <sandro> ... Also I'll be attending a conf at the end o fhte week, Interplanetrary Parliament
... Also I'll be attending a conf at the end o fhte week, Interplanetrary Parliament ←
15:13:45 <edsu> hah, awesome :)
Ed Summers: hah, awesome :) ←
15:13:57 <sandro> ... related to UN, hosted by (US) House of Representatives.
... related to UN, hosted by (US) House of Representatives. ←
15:14:17 <james_gardner> The webstore I mentioned has its own page at http://wiki.ckan.org/Webstore (it isn't on the extensions page)
James Gardner: The webstore I mentioned has its own page at http://wiki.ckan.org/Webstore (it isn't on the extensions page) ←
15:14:43 <sandro> citizencontact: I'll post more info as I get it to the email list.
Daniel Bennett: I'll post more info as I get it to the email list. ←
15:14:44 <james_gardner> See also: http://webstore.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
James Gardner: See also: http://webstore.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ ←
15:15:26 <sandro> citizencontact: The Feb2 is open to everyone, I sent something to the list about a week ago, it's open to all. THe end of month one is probably closed, but some showing from W3C could be good.
Daniel Bennett: The Feb2 is open to everyone, I sent something to the list about a week ago, it's open to all. THe end of month one is probably closed, but some showing from W3C could be good. ←
15:15:42 <citizencontact> daniel@citizencontact.com
Daniel Bennett: daniel@citizencontact.com ←
15:15:52 <sandro> q?
q? ←
15:16:01 <sandro> Jeanne: Anyone other announcements?
Jeanne Holm: Anyone other announcements? ←
15:16:03 <Makx> http://joinup.ec.europa.eu/asset/adms/release/08
Makx Dekkers: http://joinup.ec.europa.eu/asset/adms/release/08 ←
15:16:04 <Zakim> -jdforrester
Zakim IRC Bot: -jdforrester ←
15:16:24 <sandro> Jeanne: Thanks for ADMS links.
Jeanne Holm: Thanks for ADMS links. ←
15:16:58 <sandro> Jeanne: Thanks everyone! We'll reconvene in the next month. Next speaker will be Tomasz Janowski of UN University.
Jeanne Holm: Thanks everyone! We'll reconvene in the next month. Next speaker will be Tomasz Janowski of UN University. ←
15:17:10 <KevinSimkins> Have a great day everyone
Kevin Simkins: Have a great day everyone ←
15:17:12 <sandro> ADJOURN
ADJOURN ←
15:17:13 <olyerickson> Thanks Jeanne!!!
John Erickson: Thanks Jeanne!!! ←
15:17:16 <Zakim> -olyerickson
Zakim IRC Bot: -olyerickson ←
15:17:17 <KevinSimkins> thx Jeanne
Kevin Simkins: thx Jeanne ←
15:17:19 <Zakim> -sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -sandro ←
15:17:22 <Zakim> - +1.413.652.aagg
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.413.652.aagg ←
15:17:23 <jdforrester> Thanks Jeanne, everyone.
James Forrester: Thanks Jeanne, everyone. ←
15:17:23 <Zakim> -DanielBennett
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15:17:24 <Zakim> -??P18
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15:17:25 <Zakim> -edsu
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Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.703.281.aaaa ←
15:18:23 <Zakim> - +44.786.783.aahh
Zakim IRC Bot: - +44.786.783.aahh ←
15:18:26 <Zakim> Team_(egov)14:00Z has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: Team_(egov)14:00Z has ended ←
15:18:27 <Zakim> Attendees were sandro, +1.703.281.aaaa, +44.207.222.aabb, jdforrester?, [IPcaller], martin, olyerickson, +1.571.331.aacc, +1.202.684.aadd, LeeF, +1.847.699.aaee, jdforrester,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were sandro, +1.703.281.aaaa, +44.207.222.aabb, jdforrester?, [IPcaller], martin, olyerickson, +1.571.331.aacc, +1.202.684.aadd, LeeF, +1.847.699.aaee, jdforrester, ←
15:18:31 <Zakim> ... bhyland, DanielBennett, +1.509.464.aaff, George_Thomas, +1.413.652.aagg, edsu, +44.786.783.aahh
Zakim IRC Bot: ... bhyland, DanielBennett, +1.509.464.aaff, George_Thomas, +1.413.652.aagg, edsu, +44.786.783.aahh ←
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