14:57:51 <RRSAgent> logging to http://dristachi.site/2013/02/04-ldp-irc
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14:57:53 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs public ←
14:57:55 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be LDP ←
14:57:55 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_LDP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see SW_LDP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes ←
14:57:56 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
14:57:56 <trackbot> Date: 04 February 2013
14:58:09 <Arnaud> chair: Arnaud
14:59:29 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_LDP()10:00AM has now started ←
14:59:35 <Zakim> +cygri
Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri ←
14:59:49 <Zakim> +??P14
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P14 ←
14:59:55 <cygri> zakim, who is on the phone?
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:59:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see cygri, ??P14
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see cygri, ??P14 ←
15:00:01 <AndyS> zakim, ??P14 is me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P14 is me ←
15:00:01 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS; got it ←
15:00:02 <Zakim> +SteveBattle
Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveBattle ←
15:00:06 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
15:00:16 <Zakim> +??P18
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P18 ←
15:00:21 <Ashok> zakim, code?
Ashok Malhotra: zakim, code? ←
15:00:21 <Zakim> the conference code is 53794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), Ashok
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 53794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), Ashok ←
15:00:54 <Zakim> +Arnaud
Zakim IRC Bot: +Arnaud ←
15:00:56 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller] ←
15:00:56 <Zakim> +??P22
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P22 ←
15:01:09 <Zakim> +??P24
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P24 ←
15:01:18 <bblfish> hi
Henry Story: hi ←
15:01:24 <rgarcia> zakim, ??P22 is me
Raúl García Castro: zakim, ??P22 is me ←
15:01:24 <Zakim> +rgarcia; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +rgarcia; got it ←
15:01:30 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
15:01:34 <cygri> zakim, kalpa is with me
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, kalpa is with me ←
15:01:34 <Zakim> +kalpa; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +kalpa; got it ←
15:01:35 <Zakim> +??P27
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P27 ←
15:01:42 <Zakim> +[IBM]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IBM] ←
15:01:43 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??p27 is me
Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??p27 is me ←
15:01:43 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BartvanLeeuwen; got it ←
15:01:46 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
Zakim IRC Bot: +OpenLink_Software ←
15:01:47 <sergio> Zakim: [IPcaller] is me
15:01:47 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a] ←
15:01:55 <SteveS> Zakim, [IBM] is me
Steve Speicher: Zakim, [IBM] is me ←
15:01:55 <Zakim> +SteveS; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveS; got it ←
15:02:02 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me ←
15:02:04 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +TallTed; got it ←
15:02:05 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me ←
15:02:05 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should now be muted ←
15:02:26 <Zakim> +??P28
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P28 ←
15:02:28 <sergio> Zakim: [IPcaller] is me
15:02:32 <Zakim> +bblfish
Zakim IRC Bot: +bblfish ←
15:02:45 <bblfish> hi
Henry Story: hi ←
15:02:54 <Arnaud> zakim, who's here?
Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, who's here? ←
15:02:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see cygri, AndyS, SteveBattle, ??P18, Arnaud, rgarcia, ??P24, [IPcaller], BartvanLeeuwen, SteveS, TallTed (muted), [IPcaller.a], ??P28, bblfish
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see cygri, AndyS, SteveBattle, ??P18, Arnaud, rgarcia, ??P24, [IPcaller], BartvanLeeuwen, SteveS, TallTed (muted), [IPcaller.a], ??P28, bblfish ←
15:02:58 <Zakim> cygri has cygri, kalpa
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has cygri, kalpa ←
15:02:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see dret, Kalpa, nmihindu, BartvanLeeuwen, rgarcia, Ashok, cygri, Zakim, RRSAgent, sergio, TallTed, AndyS, betehess, SteveS, Arnaud, stevebattle, jmvanel, bblfish,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see dret, Kalpa, nmihindu, BartvanLeeuwen, rgarcia, Ashok, cygri, Zakim, RRSAgent, sergio, TallTed, AndyS, betehess, SteveS, Arnaud, stevebattle, jmvanel, bblfish, ←
15:02:58 <Zakim> ... trackbot, Yves, sandro, ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: ... trackbot, Yves, sandro, ericP ←
15:03:05 <dret> zakim, +??P28 is me
Erik Wilde: zakim, +??P28 is me ←
15:03:05 <Zakim> sorry, dret, I do not recognize a party named '+??P28'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, dret, I do not recognize a party named '+??P28' ←
15:03:08 <Zakim> +Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←
15:03:11 <dret> zakim, ??P28 is me
Erik Wilde: zakim, ??P28 is me ←
15:03:12 <Zakim> +dret; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +dret; got it ←
15:03:16 <sergio> Zakim: [IPcaller] is me
15:03:21 <bblfish> Do you all remember when Arnaud used to to be worried there was not enough conversation going on the mailing list?
Henry Story: Do you all remember when Arnaud used to to be worried there was not enough conversation going on the mailing list? ←
15:03:24 <Ashok> zakim, ??18 is me
Ashok Malhotra: zakim, ??18 is me ←
15:03:24 <Zakim> sorry, Ashok, I do not recognize a party named '??18'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Ashok, I do not recognize a party named '??18' ←
15:03:31 <Zakim> +Yves
Zakim IRC Bot: +Yves ←
15:03:34 <TallTed> Zakim, who's here?
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, who's here? ←
15:03:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see cygri, AndyS, SteveBattle, ??P18, Arnaud, rgarcia, ??P24, [IPcaller], BartvanLeeuwen, SteveS, TallTed (muted), [IPcaller.a], dret, bblfish, Sandro, Yves
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see cygri, AndyS, SteveBattle, ??P18, Arnaud, rgarcia, ??P24, [IPcaller], BartvanLeeuwen, SteveS, TallTed (muted), [IPcaller.a], dret, bblfish, Sandro, Yves ←
15:03:37 <Zakim> cygri has cygri, kalpa
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has cygri, kalpa ←
15:03:37 <Zakim> On IRC I see Dave, roger, dret, Kalpa, nmihindu, BartvanLeeuwen, rgarcia, Ashok, cygri, Zakim, RRSAgent, sergio, TallTed, AndyS, betehess, SteveS, Arnaud,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Dave, roger, dret, Kalpa, nmihindu, BartvanLeeuwen, rgarcia, Ashok, cygri, Zakim, RRSAgent, sergio, TallTed, AndyS, betehess, SteveS, Arnaud, ←
15:03:37 <Zakim> ... stevebattle, jmvanel, bblfish, trackbot, Yves, sandro, ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: ... stevebattle, jmvanel, bblfish, trackbot, Yves, sandro, ericP ←
15:03:56 <Ashok> zakim, ??P18 is me
Ashok Malhotra: zakim, ??P18 is me ←
15:03:57 <Zakim> +Ashok; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ashok; got it ←
15:04:05 <Zakim> +roger
Zakim IRC Bot: +roger ←
15:04:09 <bblfish> mute bblfish
Henry Story: mute bblfish ←
15:04:15 <sergio> Zakim: [IPcaller] is me
15:04:19 <bblfish> zakim, mute bblfish
Henry Story: zakim, mute bblfish ←
15:04:20 <Zakim> bblfish should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bblfish should now be muted ←
15:04:51 <Zakim> +JohnArwe
Zakim IRC Bot: +JohnArwe ←
15:05:19 <Zakim> +??P8
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P8 ←
15:05:25 <bblfish> zakim, unmute bblfish
Henry Story: zakim, unmute bblfish ←
15:05:25 <Zakim> bblfish should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bblfish should no longer be muted ←
15:05:32 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller] ←
15:05:44 <dret> i can do it for 30min before yves takes over...
Erik Wilde: i can do it for 30min before yves takes over... ←
15:05:59 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
15:06:11 <sergio> Zakim: [IPcaller] is me
15:06:13 <bblfish> q?
Henry Story: q? ←
15:06:27 <bblfish> Ok, I can do it
Henry Story: Ok, I can do it ←
15:06:46 <Arnaud> srcibe: dret
(Scribe set to Erik Wilde)
15:06:55 <cygri> s/srcibe/scribe/
15:07:08 <cygri> chair: Arnaud
15:07:13 <Ashok> scribenick: dret
15:07:18 <cygri> agenda: http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.02.04
15:07:38 <sergio> Zakim: [IPcaller] is sergio
<dret> topic: Adminstrative Stuff
<Arnaud> Proposed: approve minutes of January 28
PROPOSED: approve minutes of January 28 ←
15:07:49 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1
Bart van Leeuwen: +1 ←
15:07:50 <sergio> +1
Sergio Fernández: +1 ←
15:07:56 <nmihindu> zakim, ??P8 is me
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: zakim, ??P8 is me ←
15:07:56 <Zakim> +nmihindu; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +nmihindu; got it ←
15:07:56 <cygri> zakim, [IPcaller] is sergio
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, [IPcaller] is sergio ←
15:07:57 <Zakim> +sergio; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +sergio; got it ←
15:08:16 <dret> resolved: minutes of January 28 are approved (no objections)
RESOLVED: minutes of January 28 are approved (no objections) ←
15:08:38 <bblfish> what is the URL for the registration?
Henry Story: what is the URL for the registration? ←
15:08:39 <dret> next meeting next week, please register for f2f2
next meeting next week, please register for f2f2 ←
15:08:46 <dret> topic: Actions
15:08:55 <cygri> dret, http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/wiki/F2F2
Richard Cyganiak: dret, http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/wiki/F2F2 ←
15:08:56 <dret> there are no actions pending review
there are no actions pending review ←
15:09:05 <bblfish> thanks
Henry Story: thanks ←
15:09:22 <dret> thanks, cygri
thanks, cygri ←
15:10:34 <dret> Yves: LDP UCR FPWD was published (but there wasn't an open action)
Yves Lafon: LDP UCR FPWD was published (but there wasn't an open action) ←
15:10:42 <dret> topic: Issues
<dret> No issues pending review
No issues pending review ←
<dret> subtopic: Raised Issues
15:11:24 <dret> ISSUE-46 raised by roger should result in a wiki page
ISSUE-46 raised by roger should result in a wiki page ←
15:11:39 <cygri> ISSUE-46?
15:11:39 <trackbot> ISSUE-46 -- services and LDP -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-46 -- services and LDP -- raised ←
15:11:39 <trackbot> http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/track/issues/46
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/track/issues/46 ←
15:11:41 <stevebattle> q+
Steve Battle: q+ ←
15:11:46 <bblfish> q?
Henry Story: q? ←
15:12:35 <dret> maybe ISSUE-46 should be closed and a wiki page created as a "wish list"? roger agrees, stevebattle assists with making sure things get into UCR
maybe ISSUE-46 should be closed and a wiki page created as a "wish list"? roger agrees, stevebattle assists with making sure things get into UCR ←
15:12:42 <JohnArwe> if issue-46 is handled via wiki page or any other on-line resource, let's link 46 to that target site
John Arwe: if ISSUE-46 is handled via wiki page or any other on-line resource, let's link 46 to that target site ←
15:12:48 <dret> resolved: close ISSUE-46
15:12:48 <trackbot> Closed ISSUE-46 services and LDP.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ISSUE-46 services and LDP. ←
15:12:52 <bblfish> q+
Henry Story: q+ ←
15:12:55 <stevebattle> q-
Steve Battle: q- ←
15:13:11 <Zakim> +??P0
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0 ←
15:13:20 <bblfish> ISSUE-47
15:13:20 <trackbot> ISSUE-47 -- publish ontology -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-47 -- publish ontology -- raised ←
15:13:20 <trackbot> http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/track/issues/47
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/track/issues/47 ←
15:13:46 <svillata> Zakim, ??P0 is me
Serena Villata: Zakim, ??P0 is me ←
15:13:46 <Zakim> +svillata; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +svillata; got it ←
15:13:55 <Arnaud> proposed: open issue-47
15:13:56 <JohnArwe> +1
15:13:57 <stevebattle> +1
Steve Battle: +1 ←
15:13:59 <sergio> +1
Sergio Fernández: +1 ←
15:14:00 <rgarcia> +1
Raúl García Castro: +1 ←
15:14:00 <bblfish> +1
Henry Story: +1 ←
15:14:01 <SteveS> +1
Steve Speicher: +1 ←
15:14:02 <svillata> +1
Serena Villata: +1 ←
15:14:12 <cygri> +1
Richard Cyganiak: +1 ←
15:14:12 <nmihindu> +1
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: +1 ←
15:14:14 <AndyS> +1
Andy Seaborne: +1 ←
15:14:14 <roger> +1
Roger Menday: +1 ←
15:14:21 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1
Bart van Leeuwen: +1 ←
15:14:31 <dret> open ISSUE-47 ; bblfish will become the "editor" of the ontology
open ISSUE-47 ; bblfish will become the "editor" of the ontology ←
15:14:46 <Arnaud> resolved: open issue-47
15:14:57 <stevebattle> The minimal ontology on the issue page looks good though
Steve Battle: The minimal ontology on the issue page looks good though ←
15:14:57 <dret> ISSUE-48
15:14:57 <trackbot> ISSUE-48 -- Profile mechanism is Needed -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-48 -- Profile mechanism is Needed -- raised ←
15:14:57 <trackbot> http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/track/issues/48
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/track/issues/48 ←
15:15:27 <bblfish> q+
Henry Story: q+ ←
15:15:40 <Arnaud> Proposal: close issue-48 as out of scope for this WG
PROPOSED: close ISSUE-48 as out of scope for this WG ←
15:16:29 <AndyS> agree - does not need spec'ing - server can enforce anyway.
Andy Seaborne: agree - does not need spec'ing - server can enforce anyway. ←
15:16:30 <SteveS> +1
Steve Speicher: +1 ←
15:16:33 <stevebattle> +1
Steve Battle: +1 ←
15:16:36 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1
Bart van Leeuwen: +1 ←
15:16:40 <svillata> +1
Serena Villata: +1 ←
15:16:40 <bblfish> +1
Henry Story: +1 ←
15:16:41 <rgarcia> +1
Raúl García Castro: +1 ←
15:16:41 <sergio> +1
Sergio Fernández: +1 ←
15:16:45 <SteveS> need use cases from owner
Steve Speicher: need use cases from owner ←
15:16:55 <dret> close ISSUE-48
15:16:55 <trackbot> Closed ISSUE-48 Profile mechanism is Needed.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ISSUE-48 Profile mechanism is Needed. ←
15:16:58 <sergio> could come later
Sergio Fernández: could come later ←
15:16:59 <nmihindu> +1
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: +1 ←
15:17:00 <roger> +1
Roger Menday: +1 ←
15:17:05 <Arnaud> resolved: close issue-48
15:17:38 <stevebattle> Thanks for getting that published Yves.
Steve Battle: Thanks for getting that published Yves. ←
15:17:54 <dret> UCR have been published, thanks everybody for making this happen
UCR have been published, thanks everybody for making this happen ←
15:18:00 <bblfish> http://dristachi.site/TR/2013/WD-ldp-ucr-20130131/
Henry Story: http://dristachi.site/TR/2013/WD-ldp-ucr-20130131/ ←
15:18:02 <AndyS> http://dristachi.site/TR/ldp-ucr/
Andy Seaborne: http://dristachi.site/TR/ldp-ucr/ ←
15:18:12 <dret> topic: UCR
<dret> LDP UCR FPWD was published
LDP UCR FPWD was published ←
<dret> http://dristachi.site/TR/2013/WD-ldp-ucr-20130131/
http://dristachi.site/TR/2013/WD-ldp-ucr-20130131/ ←
15:18:18 <dret> topic: LDP spec
<dret> steves: nothing to report
Steve Speicher: nothing to report ←
15:18:23 <stevebattle> The link to the published UC&R is broken on the wiki
Steve Battle: The link to the published UC&R is broken on the wiki ←
15:18:34 <stevebattle> It returns 404
Steve Battle: It returns 404 ←
15:18:51 <dret> stevebattle, it's a wiki ;-)
stevebattle, it's a wiki ;-) ←
15:18:58 <stevebattle> :)
Steve Battle: :) ←
15:18:34 <dret> topic: Open Issues
15:19:17 <dret> subtopic: ISSUE-9
15:19:17 <trackbot> ISSUE-9 -- Should properties used in BPR representations be BPRs? -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-9 -- Should properties used in BPR representations be BPRs? -- open ←
15:19:17 <trackbot> http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/track/issues/9
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/track/issues/9 ←
15:19:56 <Yves> fixed (ldp-ucr link)
Yves Lafon: fixed (ldp-ucr link) ←
15:20:22 <bblfish> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2012Dec/0100.html
Henry Story: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2012Dec/0100.html ←
15:20:32 <dret> should we accept rgarcia's proposal?
should we accept rgarcia's proposal? ←
15:20:40 <Arnaud> proposed: close issue-9, accepting Raul's proposal
PROPOSED: close ISSUE-9, accepting Raul's proposal ←
15:20:43 <bblfish> Ah yes, so this was my test: "Predicate URIs used in BPR representations should be HTTP URLs which when dereferenced provide the definition of said term."
Henry Story: Ah yes, so this was my test: "Predicate URIs used in BPR representations should be HTTP URLs which when dereferenced provide the definition of said term." ←
15:21:02 <dret> arnaud proposes to close the issue, accepting this proposal
arnaud proposes to close the issue, accepting this proposal ←
15:21:17 <cygri> q+
Richard Cyganiak: q+ ←
15:21:20 <bblfish> q-
Henry Story: q- ←
15:21:59 <dret> cygri asks about plans for a best practices document, maybe separate from the specification
cygri asks about plans for a best practices document, maybe separate from the specification ←
15:22:13 <dret> Arnaud points to the deployment guide
Arnaud points to the deployment guide ←
15:22:15 <SteveS> http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/wiki/Deployment_Guide
Steve Speicher: http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/wiki/Deployment_Guide ←
15:22:27 <Zakim> -??P24
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P24 ←
15:22:49 <dret> cygri points out that we shouldn't require things that are not necessary, and we shouldn't overconstrain the protocol
cygri points out that we shouldn't require things that are not necessary, and we shouldn't overconstrain the protocol ←
15:23:07 <stevebattle> Yes - I agree it's best practice.
Steve Battle: Yes - I agree it's best practice. ←
15:23:10 <Zakim> -Ashok
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ashok ←
15:23:39 <bblfish> q+
Henry Story: q+ ←
15:23:43 <cygri> ack me
Richard Cyganiak: ack me ←
15:23:55 <Arnaud> ack bblfish
Arnaud Le Hors: ack bblfish ←
15:23:58 <dret> maybe we could always keep SHOULD's in the spec?
maybe we could always keep SHOULD's in the spec? ←
15:24:08 <stevebattle> But agree they certainly shouldn't be LDP Resources.
Steve Battle: But agree they certainly shouldn't be LDP Resources. ←
15:24:12 <cygri> q+
Richard Cyganiak: q+ ←
15:24:25 <Arnaud> ack cygri
Arnaud Le Hors: ack cygri ←
15:24:27 <dret> bblfish agrees with cygri
bblfish agrees with cygri ←
15:25:15 <sergio> q+
Sergio Fernández: q+ ←
15:25:29 <dret> f2f discussion around use of datatypes: everybody said maybe forbidding datatypes is not such a great idea, we shouldn't do it if this doesn't break anything
f2f discussion around use of datatypes: everybody said maybe forbidding datatypes is not such a great idea, we shouldn't do it if this doesn't break anything ←
15:25:44 <Arnaud> Proposed: close issue-9, this is really best practice and should be moved out of the spec into the deployment guide
PROPOSED: close ISSUE-9, this is really best practice and should be moved out of the spec into the deployment guide ←
15:25:53 <dret> as a result of the f2f, the datatypes were moved to the deployment guide
as a result of the f2f, the datatypes were moved to the deployment guide ←
15:25:59 <Arnaud> ack sergio
Arnaud Le Hors: ack sergio ←
15:26:51 <rgarcia> q+
Raúl García Castro: q+ ←
15:26:54 <dret> sorry sergio, i have a hard time understanding you. could you summarize on IRC for the minutes? thanks.
sorry sergio, i have a hard time understanding you. could you summarize on IRC for the minutes? thanks. ←
15:26:58 <Zakim> -[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller.a] ←
15:27:00 <Arnaud> ack ragarcia
Arnaud Le Hors: ack ragarcia ←
15:27:09 <Arnaud> ack rgarcia
Arnaud Le Hors: ack rgarcia ←
15:27:10 <stevebattle> This proposal should state that the text of 4.1.8 should change.
Steve Battle: This proposal should state that the text of 4.1.8 should change. ←
15:27:12 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[GVoice] ←
15:27:26 <sergio> the point is that there are many open points at the spec, so maybe we should combine it with some best practices
Sergio Fernández: the point is that there are many open points at the spec, so maybe we should combine it with some best practices ←
15:27:30 <cygri> +1
Richard Cyganiak: +1 ←
15:27:32 <rgarcia> +1
Raúl García Castro: +1 ←
15:27:34 <svillata> +1
Serena Villata: +1 ←
15:27:37 <sergio> +1
Sergio Fernández: +1 ←
15:27:40 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1
Bart van Leeuwen: +1 ←
15:27:42 <nmihindu> +1
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: +1 ←
15:27:47 <AndyS> +1 This is general LD good practice, not LDP specific.
Andy Seaborne: +1 This is general LD good practice, not LDP specific. ←
15:27:47 <roger> +1
Roger Menday: +1 ←
15:27:54 <dret> arnaud proposed to close issue-9, straw poll about this
arnaud proposed to close ISSUE-9, straw poll about this ←
15:27:57 <stevebattle> +1
Steve Battle: +1 ←
15:27:58 <TallTed> +1+0
Ted Thibodeau: +1+0 ←
15:27:58 <bblfish> +1
Henry Story: +1 ←
15:28:03 <dret> +1
+1 ←
15:28:04 <TallTed> oops +0
Ted Thibodeau: oops +0 ←
15:28:12 <Zakim> +??P2
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P2 ←
15:28:23 <dret> close ISSUE-9
15:28:23 <trackbot> Closed ISSUE-9 Should properties used in BPR representations be BPRs?.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ISSUE-9 Should properties used in BPR representations be BPRs?. ←
15:28:34 <Ashok> zakim, ??P2 is me
Ashok Malhotra: zakim, ??P2 is me ←
15:28:34 <Zakim> +Ashok; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ashok; got it ←
<Arnaud> resolved: close issue-9, this is best practice, move text to deployment guide
RESOLVED: close ISSUE-9, this is best practice, move text to deployment guide ←
15:28:42 <dret> subtopic: ISSUE-10
15:28:42 <trackbot> ISSUE-10 -- Include clarifications and guidance around ETags -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-10 -- Include clarifications and guidance around ETags -- open ←
15:28:42 <trackbot> http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/track/issues/10
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/track/issues/10 ←
15:29:26 <dret> some discussions on the mailing list, rgarcia presents an evolved proposal
some discussions on the mailing list, rgarcia presents an evolved proposal ←
15:30:02 <bblfish> There was something weak etags which sounds good to me
Henry Story: There was something weak etags which sounds good to me ←
15:30:09 <SteveS> Proposal I believe is within here http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2013Feb/0035.html
Steve Speicher: Proposal I believe is within here http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2013Feb/0035.html ←
15:30:14 <dret> what are the different ways to go?
what are the different ways to go? ←
15:30:59 <bblfish> q+
Henry Story: q+ ←
15:31:00 <dret> rgarcia says there's agreement to weak ETags, but HTTP/1.1 requires strong ETags for certain functions
rgarcia says there's agreement to weak ETags, but HTTP/1.1 requires strong ETags for certain functions ←
15:31:10 <Arnaud> ack bblfish
Arnaud Le Hors: ack bblfish ←
15:31:28 <Zakim> -Ashok
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ashok ←
15:31:34 <SteveS> From Prierre-Antoine: "The server MAY provide a strong etag (ref), but only if it can guarantee that the same graph will always be serialized the exact same way (byte-wise). This is not always the case, as the order of triples or blank node labels are not significant in RDF and may vary across serializations. If the server can not ensure that, the etags it provides MUST be weak etags (ref)."
Steve Speicher: From Prierre-Antoine: "The server MAY provide a strong etag (ref), but only if it can guarantee that the same graph will always be serialized the exact same way (byte-wise). This is not always the case, as the order of triples or blank node labels are not significant in RDF and may vary across serializations. If the server can not ensure that, the etags it provides MUST be weak etags (ref)." ←
15:31:35 <Ashok> q+
Ashok Malhotra: q+ ←
15:31:35 <Ashok> q+
Ashok Malhotra: q+ ←
15:31:55 <dret> bblfish suggests that this info should be put into the spec
bblfish suggests that this info should be put into the spec ←
15:31:57 <dret> q+
q+ ←
15:31:59 <SteveS> q+
Steve Speicher: q+ ←
15:32:09 <ericP> ack dret
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ack dret ←
15:32:09 <Arnaud> ack dret
Arnaud Le Hors: ack dret ←
15:32:29 <Ashok> My question was "Do we need to specify how the server creates etagas"
Ashok Malhotra: My question was "Do we need to specify how the server creates etagas" ←
15:32:45 <rgarcia> Ashok, I don't think so
Raúl García Castro: Ashok, I don't think so ←
15:32:53 <bblfish> +1
Henry Story: +1 ←
15:32:53 <cygri> dret++
Richard Cyganiak: dret++ ←
15:32:56 <Arnaud> ack steves
Arnaud Le Hors: ack steves ←
15:32:57 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
15:33:09 <stevebattle> q+
Steve Battle: q+ ←
15:33:15 <Yves> I recommend that people read https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-p4-conditional-21#section-2.1
Yves Lafon: I recommend that people read https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-p4-conditional-21#section-2.1 ←
15:33:24 <dret> my suggestion is to link to the specs for informative purposes
my suggestion is to link to the specs for informative purposes ←
15:33:25 <bblfish> no I don't htink so
Henry Story: no I don't htink so ←
15:33:32 <Arnaud> ack ashok
Arnaud Le Hors: ack ashok ←
15:33:32 <dret> q+
q+ ←
15:33:49 <dret> ashok asks whether we need to specify how ETags are created
ashok asks whether we need to specify how ETags are created ←
15:33:53 <Arnaud> ack stevebattle
Arnaud Le Hors: ack stevebattle ←
15:34:12 <dret> stevebattle says we should say something, but maybe best practices
stevebattle says we should say something, but maybe best practices ←
15:34:17 <Arnaud> ack dret
Arnaud Le Hors: ack dret ←
15:34:34 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller] ←
15:34:42 <stevebattle> Best practice is going to be bigger than the spec :)
Steve Battle: Best practice is going to be bigger than the spec :) ←
15:34:48 <sergio> xD
Sergio Fernández: xD ←
15:34:55 <ericP> q+ to ask if the spec needs to say whether weak ETags are sufficient to identify identical semantic content
Eric Prud'hommeaux: q+ to ask if the spec needs to say whether weak ETags are sufficient to identify identical semantic content ←
15:35:43 <Arnaud> ack ericP
Arnaud Le Hors: ack ericP ←
15:35:43 <Zakim> ericP, you wanted to ask if the spec needs to say whether weak ETags are sufficient to identify identical semantic content
Zakim IRC Bot: ericP, you wanted to ask if the spec needs to say whether weak ETags are sufficient to identify identical semantic content ←
15:35:43 <stevebattle> qq+
Steve Battle: qq+ ←
15:35:47 <dret> yves points out that HTTPbis already talks about this, so maybe just link to that
yves points out that HTTPbis already talks about this, so maybe just link to that ←
15:35:48 <stevebattle> q+
Steve Battle: q+ ←
15:37:13 <dret> arnaud points out the specific text of the issue: should we leave the spec like it is, or does it need a change?
arnaud points out the specific text of the issue: should we leave the spec like it is, or does it need a change? ←
15:37:32 <Arnaud> ack stevebattle
Arnaud Le Hors: ack stevebattle ←
15:37:36 <dret> arnaud says people seem to converge towards not changing the spec
arnaud says people seem to converge towards not changing the spec ←
15:38:11 <dret> stevebattle says that HTTPbis maybe not have specific text about ETags for RDF media types
stevebattle says that HTTPbis maybe not have specific text about ETags for RDF media types ←
15:38:15 <ericP> i think that a decision like "identical weak ETags indicate identical graphs" still needs to go on the LDP spec
Eric Prud'hommeaux: i think that a decision like "identical weak ETags indicate identical graphs" still needs to go on the LDP spec ←
15:38:38 <rgarcia> q+
Raúl García Castro: q+ ←
15:38:43 <ericP> that seems like a normative behavior that folks will need to be able to count on and test
Eric Prud'hommeaux: that seems like a normative behavior that folks will need to be able to count on and test ←
15:39:01 <Yves> more in "if weak etags are used, equality of weak etags MUST mean identical graphs"
Yves Lafon: more in "if weak etags are used, equality of weak etags MUST mean identical graphs" ←
15:39:23 <Arnaud> ack rgarcia
Arnaud Le Hors: ack rgarcia ←
15:39:28 <dret> we cannot change HTTP at that level (you're kind of inventing "strong ETags specifically for RDF content")
we cannot change HTTP at that level (you're kind of inventing "strong ETags specifically for RDF content") ←
15:39:31 <Yves> then leave the use and creation od etags (weak or not) that to implementation detail
Yves Lafon: then leave the use and creation od etags (weak or not) that to implementation detail ←
15:41:08 <bblfish> that sounds interesting.
Henry Story: that sounds interesting. ←
15:41:36 <dret> not sure how well that would work for clients that just talk HTTP
not sure how well that would work for clients that just talk HTTP ←
15:41:59 <dret> ISSUE-10 remains open for now
ISSUE-10 remains open for now ←
15:42:09 <SteveS> http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/wiki/Deployment_Guide
Steve Speicher: http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/wiki/Deployment_Guide ←
15:42:15 <bblfish> ok
Henry Story: ok ←
15:42:17 <bblfish> thanks
Henry Story: thanks ←
15:42:32 <dret> subtopic: ISSUE-37 (The Model)
15:43:15 <ericP> +1 to specific textual proposals
Eric Prud'hommeaux: +1 to specific textual proposals ←
15:43:17 <ericP> !
15:43:59 <dret> http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/wiki/ISSUE-37 has been growing
ISSUE-37">http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/wiki/ISSUE-37 has been growing ←
15:44:23 <dret> no discussions around http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/wiki/ISSUE-37#Proposed_Spec_Section_.28for_the_LDP_Spec.29 on the mailing list so far
no discussions around ISSUE-37#Proposed_Spec_Section_.28for_the_LDP_Spec.29">http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/wiki/ISSUE-37#Proposed_Spec_Section_.28for_the_LDP_Spec.29 on the mailing list so far ←
15:44:23 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
15:44:32 <bblfish> makes sense
Henry Story: makes sense ←
15:44:41 <SteveS> Is the "Home Resource" and "Containers" section part of which proposal?
Steve Speicher: Is the "Home Resource" and "Containers" section part of which proposal? ←
15:45:56 <JohnArwe> +1 SteveS how do I read the HR/Containers section, as Erik's, Henry's, neither?
John Arwe: +1 SteveS how do I read the HR/Containers section, as Erik's, Henry's, neither? ←
15:46:04 <roger> +q
Roger Menday: +q ←
15:46:08 <dret> everything from the linked section to the end of the page is intended to be the text
everything from the linked section to the end of the page is intended to be the text ←
15:46:43 <Arnaud> ack roger
Arnaud Le Hors: ack roger ←
15:46:50 <JohnArwe> the "Erik Wilde", "Henry Story" chunks - are those alternatives? mut excl, additive?
John Arwe: the "Erik Wilde", "Henry Story" chunks - are those alternatives? mut excl, additive? ←
15:47:00 <dret> bblfish wants to se a better definition of the resource that are made available
bblfish wants to se a better definition of the resource that are made available ←
15:47:04 <bblfish> that's exclusive
Henry Story: that's exclusive ←
15:47:42 <SteveS> q+
Steve Speicher: q+ ←
15:48:02 <dret> oops, sorry, i didn't see the changed structure so far; i think bblfish's section is just for the intro section...
oops, sorry, i didn't see the changed structure so far; i think bblfish's section is just for the intro section... ←
15:48:06 <Arnaud> ack steves
Arnaud Le Hors: ack steves ←
15:48:10 <bblfish> ( mind you we should discuss that )
Henry Story: ( mind you we should discuss that ) ←
15:48:36 <dret> steves points out that the text currently is a bit confusing (mixed authors)
steves points out that the text currently is a bit confusing (mixed authors) ←
15:49:00 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1 to that
Bart van Leeuwen: +1 to that ←
15:49:01 <AndyS> A link is a URI?
Andy Seaborne: A link is a URI? ←
15:49:12 <dret> please mail proposals on the mailing list
please mail proposals on the mailing list ←
15:49:19 <dret> you're asking me, AndyS
you're asking me, AndyS ←
15:49:31 <bblfish> ok.
Henry Story: ok. ←
15:49:37 <dret> i'll try to keep up with change proposals as they come in...
i'll try to keep up with change proposals as they come in... ←
15:49:37 <sergio> ok
Sergio Fernández: ok ←
15:49:44 <sergio> issue-34?
15:49:44 <trackbot> ISSUE-34 -- Adding and removing arcs in weak aggregation -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-34 -- Adding and removing arcs in weak aggregation -- open ←
15:49:44 <trackbot> http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/track/issues/34
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/track/issues/34 ←
15:49:50 <dret> subtopic: ISSUE-34
15:50:12 <AndyS> generally - I am unclear everyone is talking about the same thing. May be over-solving some issues.
Andy Seaborne: generally - I am unclear everyone is talking about the same thing. May be over-solving some issues. ←
15:50:28 <TallTed> http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/wiki/ISSUE-34
Ted Thibodeau: ISSUE-34">http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/wiki/ISSUE-34 ←
15:50:34 <SteveS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2013Feb/0014.html
Steve Speicher: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2013Feb/0014.html ←
15:50:51 <dret> AndyS, if yes: a link is a URI with a link relation (a type), i.e. it is something you follow because you want to do something in the protocol flow.
AndyS, if yes: a link is a URI with a link relation (a type), i.e. it is something you follow because you want to do something in the protocol flow. ←
15:50:56 <JohnArwe> q+
15:51:22 <Arnaud> ack john
Arnaud Le Hors: ack john ←
15:51:27 <stevebattle> Are you sure that was option 3?
Steve Battle: Are you sure that was option 3? ←
15:51:54 <stevebattle> I read option 3 as every direct member of a container is aggregated.
Steve Battle: I read option 3 as every direct member of a container is composed. ←
15:52:10 <dret> JohnArwe says this is mixing the interaction model and the way how to find out about the interaction model while you're using it
JohnArwe says this is mixing the interaction model and the way how to find out about the interaction model while you're using it ←
15:52:12 <AndyS> That's a "no" then :-) URIs aren't typed. Two concepts of "link" RDF/LD link = URI. Part of a triple. Atom link - entry in a container = several triples.
Andy Seaborne: That's a "no" then :-) URIs aren't typed. Two concepts of "link" RDF/LD link = URI. Part of a triple. Atom link - entry in a container = several triples. ←
15:52:30 <stevebattle> Sorry - I confused myself
Steve Battle: Sorry - I confused myself ←
15:52:37 <stevebattle> s/aggregated/composed/
15:52:38 <Ashok> q+
Ashok Malhotra: q+ ←
15:52:42 <stevebattle> doh!
Steve Battle: doh! ←
15:52:46 <Arnaud> ack ashok
Arnaud Le Hors: ack ashok ←
15:53:26 <JohnArwe> ashok is that a data or behavioral question in your view?
John Arwe: ashok is that a data or behavioral question in your view? ←
15:53:32 <bblfish> q+
Henry Story: q+ ←
15:53:48 <bblfish> q-
Henry Story: q- ←
15:54:00 <JohnArwe> "class" I could hear as "onotology", when I think the distinction is behavioral (and any ontology is a consequence of that)
John Arwe: "class" I could hear as "onotology", when I think the distinction is behavioral (and any ontology is a consequence of that) ←
15:54:02 <Arnaud> http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/wiki/ISSUE-34
Arnaud Le Hors: ISSUE-34">http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/wiki/ISSUE-34 ←
15:54:19 <Ashok> John, not sure I understand your question
Ashok Malhotra: John, not sure I understand your question ←
15:54:53 <roger> +q
Roger Menday: +q ←
15:55:08 <JohnArwe> @ashok, when you said the first question is "one class or two", I'm trying to understand what You mean by 'class' there... rdfs:Class vs behvaioral
John Arwe: @ashok, when you said the first question is "one class or two", I'm trying to understand what You mean by 'class' there... rdfs:Class vs behavioral ←
15:55:42 <JohnArwe> q+
15:55:56 <Arnaud> ack roger
Arnaud Le Hors: ack roger ←
15:55:58 <Ashok> Ah, I meant rdfs:Class
Ashok Malhotra: Ah, I meant rdfs:Class ←
15:56:14 <dret> AndyS: a link in atom often could be seen as just one triple, but not just a URI. but it can have more complex information as well, such as media type information associated with the link as well "go to URI x if you want to edit this resource which is of media type y"
Andy Seaborne: a link in atom often could be seen as just one triple, but not just a URI. but it can have more complex information as well, such as media type information associated with the link as well "go to URI x if you want to edit this resource which is of media type y" ←
15:56:54 <Arnaud> ack john
Arnaud Le Hors: ack john ←
15:56:57 <bblfish> q+
Henry Story: q+ ←
15:56:59 <JohnArwe> s/behva/behav/
15:57:04 <Arnaud> ack bbllfish
Arnaud Le Hors: ack bbllfish ←
15:57:34 <Arnaud> ack bblfish
Arnaud Le Hors: ack bblfish ←
15:57:39 <ericP> q+ to ask for motivating use cases for containership (presuming that still means automagic deletion)
Eric Prud'hommeaux: q+ to ask for motivating use cases for containership (presuming that still means automagic deletion) ←
15:57:47 <SteveS> q+
Steve Speicher: q+ ←
15:58:00 <dret> bblfish just wanted to highlight that there are several ways to do aggregation
bblfish just wanted to highlight that there are several ways to do aggregation ←
15:58:18 <Arnaud> ack ericP
Arnaud Le Hors: ack ericP ←
15:58:18 <Zakim> ericP, you wanted to ask for motivating use cases for containership (presuming that still means automagic deletion)
Zakim IRC Bot: ericP, you wanted to ask for motivating use cases for containership (presuming that still means automagic deletion) ←
15:58:50 <Zakim> -TallTed
Zakim IRC Bot: -TallTed ←
15:59:34 <Arnaud> ack steves
Arnaud Le Hors: ack steves ←
15:59:46 <AndyS> dret, I prefer the submission style-design. additional complexity make LDP harder to use ; different to link in other LD (and HTML for that matter) [but I'd drop the recursive delete as not cool URIs but that's fine tuning]
Andy Seaborne: dret, I prefer the submission style-design. additional complexity make LDP harder to use ; different to link in other LD (and HTML for that matter) [but I'd drop the recursive delete as not cool URIs but that's fine tuning] ←
15:59:50 <roger> +q
Roger Menday: +q ←
16:00:40 <dret> SteveS points out that there are different interaction models underlying the proposals of bblfish and JohnArwe
SteveS points out that there are different interaction models underlying the proposals of bblfish and JohnArwe ←
16:00:59 <Arnaud> ack roger
Arnaud Le Hors: ack roger ←
16:01:01 <dret> Arnaud proposes to start from JohnArwe's proposal
Arnaud proposes to start from JohnArwe's proposal ←
16:01:58 <bblfish> sounds good
Henry Story: sounds good ←
16:01:58 <Zakim> -cygri
Zakim IRC Bot: -cygri ←
16:01:59 <stevebattle> I'm not sure about that either.
Steve Battle: I'm not sure about that either. ←
16:02:17 <stevebattle> 0
Steve Battle: 0 ←
16:02:19 <sergio> 0
16:02:21 <ericP> 0
16:02:21 <AndyS> Link to John's proposal for issue 34?
Andy Seaborne: Link to John's proposal for ISSUE-34? ←
16:02:25 <SteveS> +1
Steve Speicher: +1 ←
16:02:28 <roger> -1
Roger Menday: -1 ←
16:02:30 <Dave> 0
David Snelling: 0 ←
16:02:30 <svillata> 0
Serena Villata: 0 ←
16:02:38 <JohnArwe> http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/wiki/Issue-34:_Back_to_Basics
John Arwe: ISSUE-34:_Back_to_Basics">http://dristachi.site/2012/ldp/wiki/ISSUE-34:_Back_to_Basics ←
16:02:41 <dret> proposal: let's pick JohnArwe's proposal for ISSUE-34
PROPOSED: let's pick JohnArwe's proposal for ISSUE-34 ←
16:02:43 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1
Bart van Leeuwen: +1 ←
16:02:44 <rgarcia> +1
Raúl García Castro: +1 ←
16:02:51 <AndyS> Ta - capitalization:-( !!!!
Andy Seaborne: Ta - capitalization:-( !!!! ←
16:02:55 <bblfish> I think it's worth looking at it in more detail for next week
Henry Story: I think it's worth looking at it in more detail for next week ←
16:03:01 <dret> straw poll abandonded, will be help next week
straw poll abandonded, will be help next week ←
<dret> Meeting adjourned
Meeting adjourned ←
16:03:10 <Zakim> -bblfish
Zakim IRC Bot: -bblfish ←
16:03:15 <Dave> By
David Snelling: By ←
16:03:16 <Zakim> -roger
Zakim IRC Bot: -roger ←
16:03:17 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen
Zakim IRC Bot: -BartvanLeeuwen ←
16:03:17 <Zakim> -SteveS
Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveS ←
16:03:18 <Zakim> -sergio
Zakim IRC Bot: -sergio ←
16:03:19 <bblfish> bye
Henry Story: bye ←
16:03:19 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller] ←
16:03:21 <Zakim> -svillata
Zakim IRC Bot: -svillata ←
16:03:21 <Zakim> -Arnaud
Zakim IRC Bot: -Arnaud ←
16:03:22 <Zakim> -JohnArwe
Zakim IRC Bot: -JohnArwe ←
16:03:26 <Zakim> -Yves
Zakim IRC Bot: -Yves ←
16:03:30 <stevebattle> yes
Steve Battle: yes ←
16:03:36 <Zakim> -AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS ←
16:03:46 <Zakim> -Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←
16:03:55 <Zakim> -rgarcia
Zakim IRC Bot: -rgarcia ←
16:12:37 <stevebattle> You should be using if-match and if-none-match with etags
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Steve Battle: You should be using if-match and if-none-match with etags ←
16:18:00 <stevebattle> Also, if we only support weak etags for RDF we have to make sure that PATCH operates on the semantics rather than on the syntax.
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Steve Battle: Also, if we only support weak etags for RDF we have to make sure that PATCH operates on the semantics rather than on the syntax. ←
16:19:28 <stevebattle> I'm not sure layering on http changes it though
Steve Battle: I'm not sure layering on http changes it though ←
16:23:15 <dret> how do we close this to start generating the minutes?
how do we close this to start generating the minutes? ←
16:24:24 <ericP> gonna cost you
Eric Prud'hommeaux: gonna cost you ←
16:24:39 <sandro> :-) https://cgi.w3.org/member-bin/wiki_scribe
Sandro Hawke: :-) https://cgi.w3.org/member-bin/wiki_scribe ←
16:25:19 <dret> CGI! oh sweet nostalgia!
CGI! oh sweet nostalgia! ←
16:25:40 <sandro> it'll still be CGI, just wont be on a machine called CGI. :-)
Sandro Hawke: it'll still be CGI, just wont be on a machine called CGI. :-) ←
16:26:34 <Zakim> -SteveBattle
Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveBattle ←
16:27:25 <ericP> Zakim, who is here?
Eric Prud'hommeaux: Zakim, who is here? ←
16:27:25 <Zakim> On the phone I see dret, nmihindu, ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see dret, nmihindu, ericP ←
16:27:26 <Zakim> On IRC I see bhyland, SteveS, TallTed, roger, dret, nmihindu, cygri, Zakim, RRSAgent, sergio, betehess, Arnaud, stevebattle, jmvanel, bblfish, trackbot, Yves, sandro, ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see bhyland, SteveS, TallTed, roger, dret, nmihindu, cygri, Zakim, RRSAgent, sergio, betehess, Arnaud, stevebattle, jmvanel, bblfish, trackbot, Yves, sandro, ericP ←
16:31:59 <ericP> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/file/39114b935c70/tests/basic
Eric Prud'hommeaux: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/file/39114b935c70/tests/basic ←
16:35:41 <sergio> ericP: currently I was thinking about testing my draft implementation in Apache Marmotta
Eric Prud'hommeaux: currently I was thinking about testing my draft implementation in Apache Marmotta [ Scribe Assist by Sergio Fernández ] ←
16:36:56 <sergio> I'll try to use those test suites
Sergio Fernández: I'll try to use those test suites ←
16:38:13 <nmihindu> ericP: It would nice if we actually parameterize those URLs
Eric Prud'hommeaux: It would nice if we actually parameterize those URLs [ Scribe Assist by Nandana Mihindukulasooriya ] ←
16:38:26 <nmihindu> ericP: but it looks great
Eric Prud'hommeaux: but it looks great [ Scribe Assist by Nandana Mihindukulasooriya ] ←
16:42:56 <sergio> hope for the next telco I'll have some tests running
Sergio Fernández: hope for the next telco I'll have some tests running ←
16:43:12 <sergio> according my interpretation, of course
Sergio Fernández: according my interpretation, of course ←
16:43:15 <sergio> :-S
Sergio Fernández: :-S ←
16:47:22 <ericP> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/default/tests/Overview.html#createdResource
Eric Prud'hommeaux: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/default/tests/Overview.html#createdResource ←
16:47:54 <ericP> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/file/39114b935c70/tests/basic/NetWorth_1_4.trig
Eric Prud'hommeaux: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/file/39114b935c70/tests/basic/NetWorth_1_4.trig ←
16:50:46 <sergio> ericP: for instance right now I don't have a clear strategy to create LDPR or LDPC
Eric Prud'hommeaux: for instance right now I don't have a clear strategy to create LDPR or LDPC [ Scribe Assist by Sergio Fernández ] ←
16:50:52 <sergio> nmihindu: do you?
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: do you? [ Scribe Assist by Sergio Fernández ] ←
16:57:33 <ericP> i made a guess and went for it
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Eric Prud'hommeaux: i made a guess and went for it ←
17:00:54 <Zakim> -dret
Zakim IRC Bot: -dret ←
17:02:12 <Zakim> -nmihindu
Zakim IRC Bot: -nmihindu ←
17:06:05 <sergio> ericP: summarizing?
Eric Prud'hommeaux: summarizing? [ Scribe Assist by Sergio Fernández ] ←
17:06:20 <sergio> I mean, to check if we are thinking about the same
Sergio Fernández: I mean, to check if we are thinking about the same ←
17:07:13 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, ericP, in SW_LDP()10:00AM
Zakim IRC Bot: disconnecting the lone participant, ericP, in SW_LDP()10:00AM ←
17:07:14 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended ←
17:07:14 <Zakim> Attendees were cygri, AndyS, SteveBattle, Arnaud, rgarcia, kalpa, BartvanLeeuwen, SteveS, TallTed, bblfish, Sandro, dret, Yves, Ashok, roger, JohnArwe, nmihindu, sergio, svillata,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were cygri, AndyS, SteveBattle, Arnaud, rgarcia, kalpa, BartvanLeeuwen, SteveS, TallTed, bblfish, Sandro, dret, Yves, Ashok, roger, JohnArwe, nmihindu, sergio, svillata, ←
17:07:14 <Zakim> ... ericP, [IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: ... ericP, [IPcaller] ←
17:35:40 <ericP> sergio, umm, i sumarizing the conversation with dret about tests?
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Eric Prud'hommeaux: sergio, umm, i sumarizing the conversation with dret about tests? ←
17:37:17 <sergio> ok
Sergio Fernández: ok ←
17:37:25 <sergio> let's tak tomorrow
Sergio Fernández: let's talk tomorrow ←
17:37:32 <sergio> s/tak/talk
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