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13:03:35 <RRSAgent> logging to http://dristachi.site/2008/07/09-egov-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://dristachi.site/2008/07/09-egov-irc ←

13:03:37 <kevin> hi all

Kevin Novak: hi all ←

13:03:40 <Rinke> hi

Scribe problem: the name 'Rinke' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'Rinke' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Rinke: hi ←

13:03:49 <chris> hello

Scribe problem: the name 'chris' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'chris' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown chris: hello ←

13:03:50 <kjetil> hi

Kjetil Kjernsmo: hi ←

13:04:02 <kjetil> Zakim, code?

Kjetil Kjernsmo: Zakim, code? ←

13:04:02 <Zakim> the conference code is 3468 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), kjetil

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 3468 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), kjetil ←

13:04:51 <Zakim> + +0476783aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +0476783aacc ←

13:04:54 <Zakim> +darobin

Zakim IRC Bot: +darobin ←

13:05:02 <kjetil> Zakim, aacc is me

Kjetil Kjernsmo: Zakim, aacc is me ←

13:05:02 <Zakim> +kjetil; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +kjetil; got it ←

13:05:06 <darobin> Zakim, mute me

Robin Berjon: Zakim, mute me ←

13:05:06 <Zakim> darobin should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: darobin should now be muted ←

13:05:39 <kjetil> Zakim, mute me

Kjetil Kjernsmo: Zakim, mute me ←

13:05:39 <Zakim> kjetil should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil should now be muted ←

13:05:42 <Rinke> zakim, who is here?

Scribe problem: the name 'Rinke' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'Rinke' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Rinke: zakim, who is here? ←

13:05:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P0, kevin, Chris, +39.25.aaaa, +1.509.464.aabb, Rinke, OwenAmbur, kjetil (muted), darobin (muted)

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P0, kevin, Chris, +39.25.aaaa, +1.509.464.aabb, Rinke, OwenAmbur, kjetil (muted), darobin (muted) ←

13:05:44 <Zakim> On IRC I see TvE, RRSAgent, Benjamin, Zakim, Mercedes, Rinke, Mercedescs, chris, kevin, pasquale, darobin, kjetil, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see TvE, RRSAgent, Benjamin, Zakim, Mercedes, Rinke, Mercedescs, chris, kevin, pasquale, darobin, kjetil, trackbot ←

13:05:59 <kevin> oscar are you on the call?

Kevin Novak: oscar are you on the call? ←

13:06:20 <TvE> TvE and Rinke are using the same connection

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Scribe problem: the name 'TvE' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown TvE: TvE and Rinke are using the same connection ←

13:06:32 <Benjamin> Zakim, aaaa is me

Benjamin Nguyen: Zakim, aaaa is me ←

13:06:32 <Zakim> +Benjamin; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Benjamin; got it ←

13:06:40 <darobin> Zakim, Rinke holds TvE

Robin Berjon: Zakim, Rinke holds TvE ←

13:06:40 <Zakim> +TvE; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +TvE; got it ←

13:07:26 <kevin> we will get started

Kevin Novak: we will get started ←

13:08:23 <kevin> katie who isnt on IRC has volunteered to be the scribe for today

Kevin Novak: katie who isnt on IRC has volunteered to be the scribe for today ←

13:09:53 <oazanon> Zakim, code?

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Scribe problem: the name 'oazanon' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown oazanon: Zakim, code? ←

13:09:53 <Zakim> the conference code is 3468 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), oazanon

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 3468 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), oazanon ←

13:10:41 <chris> [Kevin] we are excited about participation so far

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Scribe problem: the name 'chris' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown chris: [Kevin] we are excited about participation so far ←

13:10:56 <Zakim> +Oscar

Zakim IRC Bot: +Oscar ←

13:11:08 <chris> [Kevin] looking to expand our outreach to garner further interest and activity

Scribe problem: the name 'chris' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'chris' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown chris: [Kevin] looking to expand our outreach to garner further interest and activity ←

13:11:09 <TvE> can anyone tell me if the eGov expertgroup lead by Maria Wimmer (Koblenz Univ) is already involved?

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Scribe problem: the name 'TvE' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown TvE: can anyone tell me if the eGov expertgroup lead by Maria Wimmer (Koblenz Univ) is already involved? ←

13:11:27 <chris> [Kevin] Kevin writing article for US publication

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Scribe problem: the name 'chris' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown chris: [Kevin] Kevin writing article for US publication ←

13:12:00 <chris> [Kevin] reach out and monitor blogoshpere on egov work

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Scribe problem: the name 'chris' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown chris: [Kevin] reach out and monitor blogoshpere on egov work ←

13:12:57 <chris> [Kevin] Reach out to DC based Web Managers Roundtable, high percertange of which are government representatives

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Scribe problem: the name 'chris' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown chris: [Kevin] Reach out to DC based Web Managers Roundtable, high percertange of which are government representatives ←

13:13:36 <chris> [Kevin] possibly present to Web Managers Roundtable at sessin on egov

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Scribe problem: the name 'chris' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown chris: [Kevin] possibly present to Web Managers Roundtable at sessin on egov ←

13:14:09 <chris> [Kevin] looking to host a workshop in DC in Spring

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Scribe problem: the name 'chris' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown chris: [Kevin] looking to host a workshop in DC in Spring ←

13:14:31 <chris> [Kevin] call schedule with OASIS

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Scribe problem: the name 'chris' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown chris: [Kevin] call schedule with OASIS ←

13:14:49 <chris> [Kevin] reach out to World Bank or other orgs for sponsorship

Scribe problem: the name 'chris' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'chris' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown chris: [Kevin] reach out to World Bank or other orgs for sponsorship ←

13:15:02 <TvE> don't forget to connect to the CEN activities

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Scribe problem: the name 'TvE' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown TvE: don't forget to connect to the CEN activities ←

13:15:08 <chris> [Kevin] roll call

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Scribe problem: the name 'chris' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown chris: [Kevin] roll call ←

13:16:08 <kevin> rachel flag is giving overview of us federal web managers group

Kevin Novak: rachel flag is giving overview of us federal web managers group ←

13:16:23 <kevin> she recently joined as an invited expert

Kevin Novak: she recently joined as an invited expert ←

13:16:53 <kevin> she is willing to reach out to others in her community for involvement

Kevin Novak: she is willing to reach out to others in her community for involvement ←

13:18:30 <kevin> welcome to Tom

Kevin Novak: welcome to Tom ←

13:18:47 <Rinke> Tom van Engers and Rinke HOekstra

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Scribe problem: the name 'Rinke' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Rinke: Tom van Engers and Rinke HOekstra ←

13:19:15 <Benjamin> Benjamin Nguyen from University of Versailles

Benjamin Nguyen: Benjamin Nguyen from University of Versailles ←

13:19:31 <kevin> Hi Jose

Kevin Novak: Hi Jose ←

13:19:49 <TvE> More information on the Leibniz Center for Law can be found on www.LeibnizCenter.org

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Scribe problem: the name 'TvE' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown TvE: More information on the Leibniz Center for Law can be found on www.LeibnizCenter.org ←

13:20:10 <josema> Hi all, just here two minutes in case anybody needs help with logistics (hope things are workin :)

José Alonso: Hi all, just here two minutes in case anybody needs help with logistics (hope things are workin :) ←

13:20:14 <kevin> any one else new to the group this week?

Kevin Novak: any one else new to the group this week? ←

13:20:30 <kevin> we are trying hard to get through without you :)

Kevin Novak: we are trying hard to get through without you :) ←

13:20:52 <josema> come on!

José Alonso: come on! ←

13:21:19 <johnlsheridan> I'm only on IRC this week I'm afraid (actually I'm on holiday - but thought I'd join you anyway)

John Sheridan: I'm only on IRC this week I'm afraid (actually I'm on holiday - but thought I'd join you anyway) ←

13:21:23 <josema> btw, welcome to our new Group Members and thanks for participating

José Alonso: btw, welcome to our new Group Members and thanks for participating ←

13:21:41 <josema> nobody scribing today?

José Alonso: nobody scribing today? ←

13:23:41 <kjetil> worse, a policy against IRC...

Kjetil Kjernsmo: worse, a policy against IRC... ←

13:23:57 <josema> ouch!

José Alonso: ouch! ←

13:24:03 <kevin> Katie is doing it although she isnt on irc

Kevin Novak: Katie is doing it although she isnt on irc ←

13:26:08 <josema> thanks, Katie!

José Alonso: thanks, Katie! ←

13:28:41 <Zakim> +peter_krantz

Zakim IRC Bot: +peter_krantz ←

13:30:01 <chris> Do we see the group structure as roughly following the following: 1. best practices /approaches

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Scribe problem: the name 'chris' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown chris: Do we see the group structure as roughly following the following: 1. best practices /approaches ←

13:30:06 <chris> 2. policy

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Unknown chris: 2. policy ←

13:30:11 <chris> 3. technical standards

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Unknown chris: 3. technical standards ←

13:31:19 <josema> RRSAgent, pointer?

José Alonso: RRSAgent, pointer? ←

13:31:19 <RRSAgent> See http://dristachi.site/2008/07/09-egov-irc#T13-31-19

RRSAgent IRC Bot: See http://dristachi.site/2008/07/09-egov-irc#T13-31-19 ←

13:31:44 <Rinke> RRSAgent, make records public

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Unknown Rinke: RRSAgent, make records public ←

13:31:46 <kevin> Jose can you answer the IRC question

Kevin Novak: Jose can you answer the IRC question ←

13:32:03 <darobin> our IRC logs are public

Robin Berjon: our IRC logs are public ←

13:32:10 <josema> sure, the answer is the pointer above ;)

José Alonso: sure, the answer is the pointer above ;) ←

13:33:24 <oazanon> hi, I'm here

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Unknown oazanon: hi, I'm here ←

13:33:26 <oazanon> :)

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Unknown oazanon: :) ←

13:33:34 <kevin> we are going to move on to having the subchairs talk about the work of the subgroups

Kevin Novak: we are going to move on to having the subchairs talk about the work of the subgroups ←

13:33:40 <josema> btw, Rinke, and also minutes will be public after the meeting

José Alonso: btw, Rinke, and also minutes will be public after the meeting ←

13:33:52 <Zakim> +??P3

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P3 ←

13:34:15 <Rinke> ok, thanks.. I was just wondering whether it was general W3C policy to have everything public

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Unknown Rinke: ok, thanks.. I was just wondering whether it was general W3C policy to have everything public ←

13:34:26 <Rinke> guess it is ;)

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Unknown Rinke: guess it is ;) ←

13:34:55 <darobin> Rinke: no, it's not, but this group tries to be very public

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Unknown Rinke: no, it's not, but this group tries to be very public [ Scribe Assist by Robin Berjon ] ←

13:35:04 <Zakim> + +1.202.501.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.501.aadd ←

13:35:06 <josema> exactly

José Alonso: exactly ←

13:35:12 <Rinke> ok, thanks.

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Unknown Rinke: ok, thanks. ←

13:35:26 <peter_krantz> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Peter Krantz: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←

13:35:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P0, kevin, Chris, Benjamin, +1.509.464.aabb, Rinke, OwenAmbur, kjetil (muted), darobin (muted), Oscar, peter_krantz, ??P3, +1.202.501.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P0, kevin, Chris, Benjamin, +1.509.464.aabb, Rinke, OwenAmbur, kjetil (muted), darobin (muted), Oscar, peter_krantz, ??P3, +1.202.501.aadd ←

13:35:29 <Zakim> Rinke has TvE

Zakim IRC Bot: Rinke has TvE ←

13:35:37 <darobin> we embrace transparency and the use of Web technology in our own govenance

Robin Berjon: we embrace transparency and the use of Web technology in our own govenance ←

13:35:43 <johnlsheridan> I've just dialled in :)

John Sheridan: I've just dialled in :) ←

13:36:02 <Rinke> zakim, aadd is johnlsheridan

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Scribe problem: the name 'Rinke' does not match any of the 27 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Rinke: zakim, aadd is johnlsheridan ←

13:36:02 <Zakim> +johnlsheridan; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +johnlsheridan; got it ←

13:36:24 <darobin> josema: our scribe isn't on IRC so Zakim is only so much help

José Alonso: our scribe isn't on IRC so Zakim is only so much help [ Scribe Assist by Robin Berjon ] ←

13:36:47 <josema> ah, yes...

José Alonso: ah, yes... ←

13:37:31 <josema> I'm sure the scribe and participants are smart enough anyway :)

José Alonso: I'm sure the scribe and participants are smart enough anyway :) ←

13:38:12 <josema> I gotta run now, sorry about that, wish you a productive call

José Alonso: I gotta run now, sorry about that, wish you a productive call ←

13:39:11 <kevin> Chris has started the next item on the agenda

Kevin Novak: Chris has started the next item on the agenda ←

13:39:37 <kevin> I will get notes from Katie and try to pull both the irc log and her notes together so we have a coherent summary/notes of our call

Kevin Novak: I will get notes from Katie and try to pull both the irc log and her notes together so we have a coherent summary/notes of our call ←

13:42:06 <kevin> Chris has asked if we have a definition of what standards are and how we want to define them]

Kevin Novak: Chris has asked if we have a definition of what standards are and how we want to define them] ←

13:42:44 <kevin> Areas chris wants to  look at are baseline standards compliance

Kevin Novak: Areas chris wants to look at are baseline standards compliance ←

13:43:03 <kevin> markup and validation are not uniform across govt agencies web

Kevin Novak: markup and validation are not uniform across govt agencies web ←

13:43:05 <TvE> An overwhelming amount of research after web services used is available both from previously run EU sponsored eGov projects as well as by the different national governments

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Unknown TvE: An overwhelming amount of research after web services used is available both from previously run EU sponsored eGov projects as well as by the different national governments ←

13:43:20 <TvE> Let's no redo that work.

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Unknown TvE: Let's no redo that work. ←

13:43:26 <kevin> series of best practices, accessibility

Kevin Novak: series of best practices, accessibility ←

13:43:32 <kevin> Agreed

Kevin Novak: Agreed ←

13:43:56 <kevin> We dont need to recreate the wheel and should ensure we know and evaluate all the work that has been done

Kevin Novak: We dont need to recreate the wheel and should ensure we know and evaluate all the work that has been done ←

13:45:53 <darobin> Zakim, who's making noise?

Robin Berjon: Zakim, who's making noise? ←

13:45:56 <peter_krantz> Zakim, who is noisy?

Peter Krantz: Zakim, who is noisy? ←

13:46:04 <Zakim> darobin, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P0 (5%), ??P3 (45%), johnlsheridan (5%)

Zakim IRC Bot: darobin, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P0 (5%), ??P3 (45%), johnlsheridan (5%) ←

13:46:15 <Zakim> peter_krantz, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P3 (24%), peter_krantz (5%)

Zakim IRC Bot: peter_krantz, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P3 (24%), peter_krantz (5%) ←

13:46:58 <kevin> seems all clear now

Kevin Novak: seems all clear now ←

13:47:46 <Rinke> q+ to make a point of order

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Unknown Rinke: q+ to make a point of order ←

13:48:27 <TvE> there might be specific training needs in governments and their clients which we should include in this activity or not

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Unknown TvE: there might be specific training needs in governments and their clients which we should include in this activity or not ←

13:50:23 <kevin> is anyone participating on the internationalization working group (w3c)?

Kevin Novak: is anyone participating on the internationalization working group (w3c)? ←

13:52:39 <kjetil> q?

Kjetil Kjernsmo: q? ←

13:53:07 <Rinke> q-

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Unknown Rinke: q- ←

13:54:43 <kevin> Chris closed his section,

Kevin Novak: Chris closed his section, ←

13:55:02 <kevin> Tom is talking and asking about open government standards for eu

Kevin Novak: Tom is talking and asking about open government standards for eu ←

13:55:30 <kevin> reference to links already on wiki

Kevin Novak: reference to links already on wiki ←

13:56:07 <kjetil> what's the URL of the wiki, again?

Kjetil Kjernsmo: what's the URL of the wiki, again? ←

13:56:21 <kevin> give me one second and will publish up

Kevin Novak: give me one second and will publish up ←

13:56:55 <Rinke> http://dristachi.site/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/

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Unknown Rinke: http://dristachi.site/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/ ←

13:58:01 <kevin> thanks for posting

Kevin Novak: thanks for posting ←

13:58:42 <Rinke> you're welcome. It seems that the wiki is unprotected, though: anyone can make an account.

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Unknown Rinke: you're welcome. It seems that the wiki is unprotected, though: anyone can make an account. ←

13:59:20 <kevin> I will check this out. We want the wiki to be open to read but not edit (with the exception of all the group members)

Kevin Novak: I will check this out. We want the wiki to be open to read but not edit (with the exception of all the group members) ←

13:59:39 <kevin> Jose has given me admin access while he is on holiday and will see what I can do

Kevin Novak: Jose has given me admin access while he is on holiday and will see what I can do ←

13:59:49 <Rinke> ok, great

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Unknown Rinke: ok, great ←

14:02:07 <kevin> oscar is providing a review of where he sees his work goup

Kevin Novak: oscar is providing a review of where he sees his work goup ←

14:02:14 <kevin> heading

Kevin Novak: heading ←

14:03:48 <kevin> response, I will post draft activity plan along with drat deliverables to the wiki later today for feedback

Kevin Novak: response, I will post draft activity plan along with drat deliverables to the wiki later today for feedback ←

14:05:54 <kevin> oscar is speaking about the use case format

Kevin Novak: oscar is speaking about the use case format ←

14:06:10 <kevin> he has a paragraph posted to the wiki with a suggested format

Kevin Novak: he has a paragraph posted to the wiki with a suggested format ←

14:09:36 <peter_krantz> peter asked if there will be a more lightweight way to capture a use case

Peter Krantz: peter asked if there will be a more lightweight way to capture a use case ←

14:11:18 <kevin> owen is mentioning how he had to change the template to get his content posted

Kevin Novak: owen is mentioning how he had to change the template to get his content posted ←

14:12:11 <kevin> oscar is responding and is mentioned we need a tool to help us relate use cases to the goals of the egov group

Kevin Novak: oscar is responding and is mentioned we need a tool to help us relate use cases to the goals of the egov group ←

14:12:33 <Rinke> q+ to talk about templates

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Unknown Rinke: q+ to talk about templates ←

14:12:55 <kevin> ok

Kevin Novak: ok ←

14:17:36 <Benjamin> notes : http://dristachi.site/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#WGNote

Benjamin Nguyen: notes : http://dristachi.site/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#WGNote ←

14:17:56 <Rinke> kevin, I can login to the wiki, but am unable to make any changes... so I guess the wiki is protected

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Unknown Rinke: kevin, I can login to the wiki, but am unable to make any changes... so I guess the wiki is protected ←

14:18:19 <kevin> ok that is good to know

Kevin Novak: ok that is good to know ←

14:18:45 <TvE> to know what?

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Unknown TvE: to know what? ←

14:19:46 <kevin> that there is security on the wiki. I will look into getting you access,

Kevin Novak: that there is security on the wiki. I will look into getting you access, ←

14:19:53 <Rinke> thanks

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Unknown Rinke: thanks ←

14:19:57 <TvE> *perfecto!

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Unknown TvE: *perfecto! ←

14:23:01 <darobin> Zakim, unmute me

Robin Berjon: Zakim, unmute me ←

14:23:01 <Zakim> darobin should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: darobin should no longer be muted ←

14:23:02 <kevin> Richard Murphey is asking different between report and note definition

Kevin Novak: Richard Murphey is asking different between report and note definition ←

14:24:47 <darobin> Zakim, mute me

Robin Berjon: Zakim, mute me ←

14:24:47 <Zakim> darobin should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: darobin should now be muted ←

14:24:58 <Benjamin> http://dristachi.site/TR/xquery-use-cases/

Benjamin Nguyen: http://dristachi.site/TR/xquery-use-cases/ ←

14:26:48 <kevin> any additional items that should be added to today's call or others feel need to be addressed in future calls?

Kevin Novak: any additional items that should be added to today's call or others feel need to be addressed in future calls? ←

14:29:34 <darobin> Aug 6

Robin Berjon: Aug 6 ←

14:30:40 <peter_krantz> I am on vacation too (Sweden you know...) until aug 25

Peter Krantz: I am on vacation too (Sweden you know...) until aug 25 ←

14:30:47 <TvE> * congratulations

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Unknown TvE: * congratulations ←

14:30:54 <darobin> :)

Robin Berjon: :) ←

14:32:00 <TvE> no comments

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Unknown TvE: no comments ←

14:32:01 <Rinke> thanks

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Unknown Rinke: thanks ←

14:32:18 <Zakim> -peter_krantz

Zakim IRC Bot: -peter_krantz ←

14:32:21 <Zakim> -kjetil

Zakim IRC Bot: -kjetil ←

14:32:24 <Zakim> -johnlsheridan

Zakim IRC Bot: -johnlsheridan ←

14:32:25 <Rinke> bye

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Unknown Rinke: bye ←

14:32:33 <Zakim> -??P0

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P0 ←

14:32:34 <Zakim> -OwenAmbur

Zakim IRC Bot: -OwenAmbur ←

14:32:36 <Zakim> -darobin

Zakim IRC Bot: -darobin ←

14:32:37 <Zakim> -Chris

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Zakim IRC Bot: -Chris ←

14:32:37 <Zakim> - +1.509.464.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.509.464.aabb ←

14:32:39 <Zakim> -Rinke

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Zakim IRC Bot: -Rinke ←

14:32:39 <Zakim> -kevin

Zakim IRC Bot: -kevin ←

14:32:40 <Zakim> -Oscar

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Zakim IRC Bot: -Oscar ←

14:32:42 <Zakim> -Benjamin

Zakim IRC Bot: -Benjamin ←

14:32:49 <darobin> kjetil: where're you going this time?

Kjetil Kjernsmo: where're you going this time? [ Scribe Assist by Robin Berjon ] ←

14:33:00 <Zakim> -??P3

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P3 ←

14:33:00 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended ←

14:33:01 <Zakim> Attendees were kevin, Chris, +39.25.aaaa, +1.509.464.aabb, OwenAmbur, +0476783aacc, darobin, kjetil, Benjamin, TvE, Oscar, peter_krantz, +1.202.501.aadd, johnlsheridan

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were kevin, Chris, +39.25.aaaa, +1.509.464.aabb, OwenAmbur, +0476783aacc, darobin, kjetil, Benjamin, TvE, Oscar, peter_krantz, +1.202.501.aadd, johnlsheridan ←

14:33:56 <kevin> thank you all

Kevin Novak: thank you all ←



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