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11:56:17 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be EGOV
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11:56:17 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see T&S_EGOV(LD Demo)8:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
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11:56:18 <trackbot> Meeting: eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference
11:56:18 <trackbot> Date: 03 September 2010
11:56:38 <mhausenblas> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2010Sep/0003.html
11:56:42 <mhausenblas> Chair: Michael
11:56:49 <mhausenblas> scribenick: mhausenblas
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11:57:06 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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11:58:16 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV(LD Demo)8:00AM has now started
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11:58:23 <Zakim> +mhausenblas
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11:58:27 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
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11:58:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see mhausenblas
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11:58:28 <Zakim> On IRC I see gdick, Zakim, RRSAgent, mhausenblas, tlr-bbl, MacTed, edsu, sandro, trackbot
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11:58:50 <mhausenblas> Topic: Admin
11:59:34 <Zakim> +Cory
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12:02:06 <Zakim> + +1.703.268.aaaa
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12:02:10 <Zakim> + +1.617.838.aabb
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12:02:30 <MacTed> Zakim, aabb is me
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12:02:30 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it
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12:02:53 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
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12:02:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see mhausenblas, Cory, +1.703.268.aaaa, MacTed
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12:02:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see Cory-c, gdick, Zakim, RRSAgent, mhausenblas, tlr-bbl, MacTed, edsu, sandro, trackbot
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12:03:54 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aaaa is Brand
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12:03:54 <Zakim> +Brand; got it
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12:03:57 <Zakim> + +1.508.333.aacc
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12:04:19 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aacc is gdick
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12:04:20 <Zakim> +gdick; got it
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12:04:25 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
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12:04:25 <Zakim> On the phone I see mhausenblas, Cory, Brand, MacTed, gdick
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12:04:27 <Zakim> On IRC I see Cory-c, gdick, Zakim, RRSAgent, mhausenblas, tlr-bbl, MacTed, edsu, sandro, trackbot
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12:04:38 <mhausenblas> sandro, will you join in?
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12:05:37 <sandro> d'oh, lost track of time.
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12:05:43 <sandro> zakim, who is here?
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12:05:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see mhausenblas, Cory, Brand, MacTed, gdick
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12:05:45 <Zakim> On IRC I see Cory-c, gdick, Zakim, RRSAgent, mhausenblas, tlr-bbl, MacTed, edsu, sandro, trackbot
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12:06:00 <sandro> zakim, what is the code?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, what is the code? ←
12:06:00 <Zakim> the conference code is 3468 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), sandro
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12:06:06 <mhausenblas> open actions are at http://dristachi.site/egov/IG/track/actions/open
open actions are at http://dristachi.site/egov/IG/track/actions/open ←
12:06:20 <Zakim> +Sandro
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12:06:37 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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12:06:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://dristachi.site/2010/09/03-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas
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12:06:48 <mhausenblas> Topic: Roadmap
12:08:00 <sandro> scribe: sandro
(Scribe set to Sandro Hawke)
12:08:00 <mhausenblas> scribenick: sandro
12:08:47 <sandro> mhausenblas: The idea is to get other people to do demos, for example a Challenge, from W3C, perhaps supported by DERI
Michael Hausenblas: The idea is to get other people to do demos, for example a Challenge, from W3C, perhaps supported by DERI ←
12:09:08 <sandro> ... maybe some sort of prize, which helps get public attention
... maybe some sort of prize, which helps get public attention ←
12:09:24 <sandro> ... should one do this? how restricted might it be?
... should one do this? how restricted might it be? ←
12:09:38 <sandro> zakim, who is here?
zakim, who is here? ←
12:09:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see mhausenblas, Cory, Brand, MacTed, gdick, Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see mhausenblas, Cory, Brand, MacTed, gdick, Sandro ←
12:09:40 <Zakim> On IRC I see Cory-c, gdick, Zakim, RRSAgent, mhausenblas, tlr-bbl, MacTed, edsu, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Cory-c, gdick, Zakim, RRSAgent, mhausenblas, tlr-bbl, MacTed, edsu, sandro, trackbot ←
12:10:05 <sandro> cory: There's been a couple other challenges. "Triplify"
Cory Casanave: There's been a couple other challenges. "Triplify" ←
12:10:21 <sandro> mhausenblas: I participated, recently one something (with a colleague)
Michael Hausenblas: I participated, recently one something (with a colleague) ←
12:10:40 <sandro> cory: another one... trying to remember... promoted through the white house.
Cory Casanave: another one... trying to remember... promoted through the white house. ←
12:11:10 <sandro> cory: be aware there are other things with similar names, similar initiatives.
Cory Casanave: be aware there are other things with similar names, similar initiatives. ←
12:11:27 <sandro> mhausenblas: most I know of are about publishing data, or doing something (like reasoning) with the data
Michael Hausenblas: most I know of are about publishing data, or doing something (like reasoning) with the data ←
12:11:33 <Cory-c> http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/assets/memoranda_2010/m10-11.pdf
Cory Casanave: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/assets/memoranda_2010/m10-11.pdf ←
12:11:58 <sandro> mhausenblas: I'm not aware of ones around *applications*.. There aren't a lot of apps which make use of open gov't information
Michael Hausenblas: I'm not aware of ones around *applications*.. There aren't a lot of apps which make use of open gov't information ←
12:12:15 <sandro> ... something to make clear the benefits of Open Data, preferably Linked Open Data
... something to make clear the benefits of Open Data, preferably Linked Open Data ←
12:13:31 <sandro> mhausenblas: shall I draft something?
Michael Hausenblas: shall I draft something? ←
12:13:49 <sandro> sandro: How about drafting a possible announcement/rules
Sandro Hawke: How about drafting a possible announcement/rules ←
12:14:05 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Michael to draft a strawman call incl. rules, goals, etc
ACTION: Michael to draft a strawman call incl. rules, goals, etc ←
12:14:05 <trackbot> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - Michael
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12:14:05 <trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. maisenbe, mhausenb)
Trackbot IRC Bot: Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. maisenbe, mhausenb) ←
12:14:08 <sandro> Cory-c: It'll be abstract if you don't point at something specifically?
Cory Casanave: It'll be abstract if you don't point at something specifically? ←
12:14:18 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Hausenblas to draft a strawman call incl. rules, goals, etc
ACTION: Hausenblas to draft a strawman call incl. rules, goals, etc ←
12:14:18 <trackbot> Created ACTION-111 - Draft a strawman call incl. rules, goals, etc [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2010-09-10].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-111 - Draft a strawman call incl. rules, goals, etc [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2010-09-10]. ←
12:14:30 <sandro> cory: Point at specific data sets?
Cory Casanave: Point at specific data sets? ←
12:15:05 <sandro> mhausenblas: I'd focus on gov't data, but it should be linked.
Michael Hausenblas: I'd focus on gov't data, but it should be linked. ←
12:15:52 <sandro> Cory-c: I would suggest we not limit it, but express it such that a linked data solution would show its stuff, so it helps demonstrate the value
Cory Casanave: I would suggest we not limit it, but express it such that a linked data solution would show its stuff, so it helps demonstrate the value ←
12:16:06 <sandro> sandro: that's very brave
Sandro Hawke: that's very brave ←
12:16:11 <sandro> :-)
:-) ←
12:17:25 <sandro> sandro: maybe require data to at least be converted, in an open way, to Linked Data
Sandro Hawke: maybe require data to at least be converted, in an open way, to Linked Data ←
12:17:40 <sandro> cory: Could at least label it G L D challenge
Cory Casanave: Could at least label it G L D challenge ←
12:17:55 <sandro> mhausenblas: Could have it open, but have two tracks
Michael Hausenblas: Could have it open, but have two tracks ←
12:18:06 <sandro> mhausenblas: Or use timbl's five-star plan
Michael Hausenblas: Or use timbl's five-star plan ←
12:18:20 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
zakim, who is on the call? ←
12:18:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see mhausenblas, Cory, Brand, MacTed, gdick (muted), Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see mhausenblas, Cory, Brand, MacTed, gdick (muted), Sandro ←
12:18:56 <sandro> mhausenblas: Whatever helps attract as many people as possible
Michael Hausenblas: Whatever helps attract as many people as possible ←
12:19:20 <sandro> Cory-c: I would not be surprised if some govt agencies were interested
Cory Casanave: I would not be surprised if some govt agencies were interested ←
12:20:14 <sandro> Cory-c: middle ground -- data sets leveraging each other, without pushing the technology too hard
Cory Casanave: middle ground -- data sets leveraging each other, without pushing the technology too hard ←
12:20:41 <sandro> mhausenblas: rules: it has to be publicly available, on the web, without needing to install something.
Michael Hausenblas: rules: it has to be publicly available, on the web, without needing to install something. ←
12:21:02 <sandro> mhausenblas: I think of oData, where you are often restricted to certain software.
Michael Hausenblas: I think of oData, where you are often restricted to certain software. ←
12:21:10 <sandro> mhausenblas: it should work in any browser.
Michael Hausenblas: it should work in any browser. ←
12:21:50 <sandro> mhausenblas: then a question of doing the assessment -- judges, and maybe public voting.
Michael Hausenblas: then a question of doing the assessment -- judges, and maybe public voting. ←
12:22:06 <sandro> sandro: or two prizes -- "people's choice" and judges prize.
Sandro Hawke: or two prizes -- "people's choice" and judges prize. ←
12:22:53 <sandro> mhausenblas: DERI can sponsor this, but sometimes it's a bit plain to have the money .... what other motivations would there be, ... show your work.
Michael Hausenblas: DERI can sponsor this, but sometimes it's a bit plain to have the money .... what other motivations would there be, ... show your work. ←
12:23:02 <sandro> mhausenblas: bragging rights are quite valuable
Michael Hausenblas: bragging rights are quite valuable ←
12:23:15 <sandro> mhausenblas: also for gov't agencies
Michael Hausenblas: also for gov't agencies ←
12:24:02 <sandro> mhausenblas: make sure it has strong backing and exposure, eg White house
Michael Hausenblas: make sure it has strong backing and exposure, eg White house ←
12:24:45 <sandro> sandro: selection of judges shows this
Sandro Hawke: selection of judges shows this ←
12:24:58 <sandro> Cory-c: purchasing power, technical expertise
Cory Casanave: purchasing power, technical expertise ←
12:25:23 <sandro> mhausenblas: Couple this with some event, eg Gov2.0
Michael Hausenblas: Couple this with some event, eg Gov2.0 ←
12:25:35 <sandro> mhausenblas: Is there something international?
Michael Hausenblas: Is there something international? ←
12:26:09 <sandro> Cory-c: United Nations Open Data event?
Cory Casanave: United Nations Open Data event? ←
12:26:41 <sandro> sandro: Yeah, offhand O'Reilly Gov 2.0 might be best, but it's very American
Sandro Hawke: Yeah, offhand O'Reilly Gov 2.0 might be best, but it's very American ←
12:27:16 <sandro> Cory-c: Be sure there is a clear mark they can put on their marketing materials, a cool looking seal.
Cory Casanave: Be sure there is a clear mark they can put on their marketing materials, a cool looking seal. ←
12:27:54 <sandro> mhausenblas: Okay, I can certainly put something on the wiki page to start this
Michael Hausenblas: Okay, I can certainly put something on the wiki page to start this ←
12:28:21 <sandro> mhausenblas: It sounds like we want to proceed with this
Michael Hausenblas: It sounds like we want to proceed with this ←
12:28:43 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
zakim, who is on the call? ←
12:28:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see mhausenblas, Cory, Brand, MacTed, gdick (muted), Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see mhausenblas, Cory, Brand, MacTed, gdick (muted), Sandro ←
12:29:06 <Cory-c> Also, an international company sponsor like google may help
Cory Casanave: Also, an international company sponsor like google may help ←
12:29:11 <sandro> sandro: How about you other folks, who have been quiet?
Sandro Hawke: How about you other folks, who have been quiet? ←
12:29:45 <mhausenblas> http://www.google.com/publicdata/directory
Michael Hausenblas: http://www.google.com/publicdata/directory ←
12:29:57 <sandro> mhausenblas: I might have a contact with Google that could be helpful in involving them.
Michael Hausenblas: I might have a contact with Google that could be helpful in involving them. ←
12:30:35 <sandro> brand: I've been working at this from the angle of data science, and data-as-product, within my agency.
Brand Niemann: I've been working at this from the angle of data science, and data-as-product, within my agency. ←
12:31:14 <sandro> ... At the SemWeb meetup in NYC, with Deb McGuinness and Peter Fox, Govt Open Scientific Data, ... I've been talking to Peter, and Jim Hendler.
... At the SemWeb meetup in NYC, with Deb McGuinness and Peter Fox, Govt Open Scientific Data, ... I've been talking to Peter, and Jim Hendler. ←
12:31:31 <sandro> ... WebScience is good, but I thing DataScience is bigger and more important
... WebScience is good, but I thing DataScience is bigger and more important ←
12:32:02 <sandro> ... Tim O'Reilly commissioned an article on DataScience. I linked to it. Data as a product, is the real thing. Of which LOD is a subset.
... Tim O'Reilly commissioned an article on DataScience. I linked to it. Data as a product, is the real thing. Of which LOD is a subset. ←
12:32:17 <sandro> ... I'm getting that to resonate
... I'm getting that to resonate ←
12:32:49 <sandro> mhausenblas: I wouldn't exclude that. I want to see how people use the data
Michael Hausenblas: I wouldn't exclude that. I want to see how people use the data ←
12:33:10 <sandro> mhausenblas: not just technical, but social
Michael Hausenblas: not just technical, but social ←
12:33:19 <sandro> mhausenblas: focus on what we can achieve
Michael Hausenblas: focus on what we can achieve ←
12:33:50 <sandro> brand: I couldn't agree more. I've been using SpotFire with s-plus.
Brand Niemann: I couldn't agree more. I've been using SpotFire with s-plus. ←
12:34:21 <sandro> brand: Kingsley has been interested, and started a dialog with TIBCO about making SpotFire handle linked data.
Brand Niemann: Kingsley has been interested, and started a dialog with TIBCO about making SpotFire handle linked data. ←
12:34:42 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, who's here? ←
12:34:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see mhausenblas, Cory, Brand, MacTed, gdick, Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see mhausenblas, Cory, Brand, MacTed, gdick, Sandro ←
12:34:43 <Zakim> On IRC I see Cory-c, gdick, Zakim, RRSAgent, mhausenblas, tlr, edsu, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Cory-c, gdick, Zakim, RRSAgent, mhausenblas, tlr, edsu, sandro, trackbot ←
12:34:58 <sandro> ... I needed a tool that sits on a triplestore to look at the data
... I needed a tool that sits on a triplestore to look at the data ←
12:35:03 <sandro> ... OpenLink?
... OpenLink? ←
12:35:13 <sandro> mhausenblas: Ted? Are you still here?
Michael Hausenblas: Ted? Are you still here? ←
12:36:00 <sandro> Ted: I'm not familiar with that particular effort, but certainly OpenLink is very interested in consumer and consumable interfaces to this stuff. Our strength is in the back end, but we're still itnerested.
Ted Thibodeau: I'm not familiar with that particular effort, but certainly OpenLink is very interested in consumer and consumable interfaces to this stuff. Our strength is in the back end, but we're still itnerested. ←
12:36:19 <sandro> ted: on the challenge: let's talk about the things that can't easily be answered without linked data
Ted Thibodeau: on the challenge: let's talk about the things that can't easily be answered without linked data ←
12:37:11 <sandro> ted: eg recent economic termoil ... the bad loans were untraceable through securitizations. Similar questions to be asked... Where else has this candidate been active, what are their connections? A lot of this is public record.
Ted Thibodeau: eg recent economic termoil ... the bad loans were untraceable through securitizations. Similar questions to be asked... Where else has this candidate been active, what are their connections? A lot of this is public record. ←
12:37:33 <sandro> ... a lot of this is out there, but hard to track back.
... a lot of this is out there, but hard to track back. ←
12:38:01 <sandro> ... lots of interesting connections between candidates
... lots of interesting connections between candidates ←
12:38:18 <sandro> mhausenblas: re SpotFire, can you report back on this, or invite Kingsley
Michael Hausenblas: re SpotFire, can you report back on this, or invite Kingsley ←
12:38:23 <sandro> ted: sure
Ted Thibodeau: sure ←
12:38:40 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Ted to gather info re SpotFire (Kingsley)
ACTION: Ted to gather info re SpotFire (Kingsley) ←
12:38:41 <trackbot> Created ACTION-112 - Gather info re SpotFire (Kingsley) [on Ted Thibodeau - due 2010-09-10].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-112 - Gather info re SpotFire (Kingsley) [on Ted Thibodeau - due 2010-09-10]. ←
12:39:01 <sandro> mhausenblas: Nice examples, subprime, candidates
Michael Hausenblas: Nice examples, subprime, candidates ←
12:39:17 <sandro> mhausenblas: Good examples for contest
Michael Hausenblas: Good examples for contest ←
12:39:37 <sandro> mhausenblas: maybe you can write them down on the wiki
Michael Hausenblas: maybe you can write them down on the wiki ←
12:40:16 <sandro> ted: As valuable to expose the gaps as to show the final solution. Show the GAPS in the linkage. We know this is in a gov't data some place.
Ted Thibodeau: As valuable to expose the gaps as to show the final solution. Show the GAPS in the linkage. We know this is in a gov't data some place. ←
12:40:28 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, who's here? ←
12:40:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see mhausenblas, Cory, Brand, MacTed, gdick, Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see mhausenblas, Cory, Brand, MacTed, gdick, Sandro ←
12:40:30 <Zakim> On IRC I see Cory-c, gdick, Zakim, RRSAgent, mhausenblas, tlr, edsu, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Cory-c, gdick, Zakim, RRSAgent, mhausenblas, tlr, edsu, sandro, trackbot ←
12:41:03 <sandro> gdick: I've heard a lot of good ideas. I like the idea about the scientific data. A lot of it is so old it hasn't been linked. I'm willing to work on that. Doing weather and astronomy data.
Gannon Dick: I've heard a lot of good ideas. I like the idea about the scientific data. A lot of it is so old it hasn't been linked. I'm willing to work on that. Doing weather and astronomy data. ←
12:41:11 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
Michael Hausenblas: RRSAgent, draft minutes ←
12:41:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://dristachi.site/2010/09/03-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://dristachi.site/2010/09/03-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas ←
12:41:26 <sandro> gdick: national map is a wonderful thing, but it's imposing, so little maps are good
Gannon Dick: national map is a wonderful thing, but it's imposing, so little maps are good ←
12:41:51 <sandro> gdick: Data that's out there, 20 years ago, still very valuable, just needs to be resurected.
Gannon Dick: Data that's out there, 20 years ago, still very valuable, just needs to be resurected. ←
12:42:52 <sandro> mhausenblas: Something we discussed here in Ireland... noticed this is mostly driven by developers, not business need. How to turn tech-driven to more business stuff?
Michael Hausenblas: Something we discussed here in Ireland... noticed this is mostly driven by developers, not business need. How to turn tech-driven to more business stuff? ←
12:43:18 <sandro> mhausenblas: It could be we don't just ask for apps, but also ask for apps that can be transitioned to business driven.
Michael Hausenblas: It could be we don't just ask for apps, but also ask for apps that can be transitioned to business driven. ←
12:43:42 <sandro> mhausenblas: right now, often driven by what data is out there.
Michael Hausenblas: right now, often driven by what data is out there. ←
12:44:02 <sandro> sandro: suggestion board
Sandro Hawke: suggestion board ←
12:44:17 <sandro> ... what's your dream app
... what's your dream app ←
12:44:31 <mhausenblas> http://lab.linkeddata.deri.ie/b2d/
Michael Hausenblas: http://lab.linkeddata.deri.ie/b2d/ ←
12:44:38 <sandro> cory: make that part of the challenge ... what's the best dream?
Cory Casanave: make that part of the challenge ... what's the best dream? ←
12:46:39 <sandro> sandro: maybe require or reward number of data sources. Minimum?
Sandro Hawke: maybe require or reward number of data sources. Minimum? ←
12:47:02 <sandro> mhausenblas: Yes, minimum 2, grading criteria rewards having many data sets.
Michael Hausenblas: Yes, minimum 2, grading criteria rewards having many data sets. ←
12:47:39 <sandro> sandro: maybe the judges can take into effect that the system is designed to work with many data sets, if they were available.
Sandro Hawke: maybe the judges can take into effect that the system is designed to work with many data sets, if they were available. ←
12:47:57 <sandro> mhausenblas: let's meet on a weekly basis.
Michael Hausenblas: let's meet on a weekly basis. ←
12:48:14 <sandro> sandro: regrets for next week, but in general weekly make sense.
Sandro Hawke: regrets for next week, but in general weekly make sense. ←
12:48:20 <Cory-c> Thanks Micheal!
Cory Casanave: Thanks Micheal! ←
12:48:23 <sandro> ADJOURN
ADJOURN ←
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12:48:34 <Zakim> -gdick
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12:48:38 <Zakim> -MacTed
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12:48:42 <Zakim> -Cory
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12:48:43 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV(LD Demo)8:00AM has ended
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12:48:45 <Zakim> Attendees were mhausenblas, Cory, +1.703.268.aaaa, +1.617.838.aabb, MacTed, Brand, +1.508.333.aacc, gdick, Sandro
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12:48:49 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
Michael Hausenblas: RRSAgent, draft minutes ←
12:48:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://dristachi.site/2010/09/03-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas
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12:49:28 <mhausenblas> ScribeOptions: -final -noEmbedDiagnostics
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12:49:31 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
Michael Hausenblas: RRSAgent, draft minutes ←
12:49:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://dristachi.site/2010/09/03-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas
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12:49:48 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, bye
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12:49:48 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://dristachi.site/2010/09/03-egov-actions.rdf :
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12:49:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Michael to draft a strawman call incl. rules, goals, etc [1]
ACTION: Michael to draft a strawman call incl. rules, goals, etc [1] ←
12:49:48 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://dristachi.site/2010/09/03-egov-irc#T12-14-05
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://dristachi.site/2010/09/03-egov-irc#T12-14-05 ←
12:49:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Hausenblas to draft a strawman call incl. rules, goals, etc [2]
ACTION: Hausenblas to draft a strawman call incl. rules, goals, etc [2] ←
12:49:48 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://dristachi.site/2010/09/03-egov-irc#T12-14-18
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12:49:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ted to gather info re SpotFire (Kingsley) [3]
ACTION: Ted to gather info re SpotFire (Kingsley) [3] ←
12:49:48 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://dristachi.site/2010/09/03-egov-irc#T12-38-40
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