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13:51:45 <bglimm> Zakim, this will be SPARQL
Birte Glimm: Zakim, this will be SPARQL ←
13:51:45 <Zakim> ok, bglimm; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 9 minutes
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13:52:08 <bglimm> Scribe: Birte Glimm
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13:52:14 <bglimm> ScribeNick: bglimm
13:52:25 <bglimm> Chair: LeeF
13:52:55 <bglimm> Meeting: SPARQL
13:53:17 <bglimm> Agenda: http://dristachi.site/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2010-09-07
13:54:34 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started
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13:54:40 <Zakim> +bglimm
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13:56:15 <bglimm> Regrets: Souripriya Das, Andy Seaborne
13:57:04 <LeeF> Regrets+ AxelPolleres
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13:57:38 <Zakim> +kasei
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13:57:48 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
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13:57:48 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
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13:57:49 <Zakim> +Ivan
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13:57:52 <Zakim> +mischa
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13:58:00 <SteveH__> Zakim, mischa is [Garlik]
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13:58:02 <Zakim> +[Garlik]; got it
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13:58:12 <SteveH__> Zakim, [Garlik] is temporarily me
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13:58:12 <Zakim> +SteveH__; got it
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13:58:45 <Zakim> +LeeF
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13:58:59 <Zakim> +OlivierCorby
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13:59:21 <SteveH__> bglimm, I moved from wired to wireless nw
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13:59:43 <Zakim> +??P10
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13:59:45 <AlexPassant> Zakim, ?P10 is me
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13:59:45 <Zakim> sorry, AlexPassant, I do not recognize a party named '?P10'
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14:00:00 <AlexPassant> Zakim, ??P10 is me
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14:00:00 <Zakim> +AlexPassant; got it
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14:00:50 <Zakim> +MattPerry
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14:01:02 <LeeF> topic: Admin
14:01:07 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://dristachi.site/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-08-31
Lee Feigenbaum: PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://dristachi.site/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-08-31 ←
14:02:03 <Zakim> +Sandro
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14:02:07 <Zakim> -AlexPassant
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14:02:27 <Zakim> +??P21
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14:02:32 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://dristachi.site/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-08-31
RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://dristachi.site/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-08-31 ←
14:02:41 <LeeF> Next regular meeting: 2010-09-14 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EDT (scribe: Axel Polleres )
Lee Feigenbaum: Next regular meeting: 2010-09-14 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EDT (scribe: Axel Polleres ) ←
14:02:54 <bglimm> LeeF: next meeting, as usual (Tue 14th)
Lee Feigenbaum: next meeting, as usual (Tue 14th) ←
14:03:09 <sandro> regrets next week
Sandro Hawke: regrets next week ←
14:03:12 <ivan> I may be at risk
Ivan Herman: I may be at risk ←
14:03:15 <LeeF> zakim, ??P21 is Nicholas
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, ??P21 is Nicholas ←
14:03:15 <Zakim> +Nicholas; got it
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14:03:42 <LeeF> topic: JSON Results Format
14:03:47 <bglimm> Topic: JSON results format
14:04:03 <LeeF> http://dristachi.site/TR/rdf-sparql-json-res/
Lee Feigenbaum: http://dristachi.site/TR/rdf-sparql-json-res/ ←
14:04:17 <bglimm> LeeF: First WG published this doc as a WG note
Lee Feigenbaum: First WG published this doc as a WG note ←
14:04:39 <Zakim> +??P26
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14:04:41 <AlexPassant> Zakim, ??P26 is me
Alexandre Passant: Zakim, ??P26 is me ←
14:04:44 <Zakim> +AlexPassant; got it
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14:04:44 <bglimm> ... contains a JSON version of the standard XML results format
... contains a JSON version of the standard XML results format ←
14:05:24 <bglimm> ... didn't go through the normal standardisation process since it is a note (no implementations required for example)
... didn't go through the normal standardisation process since it is a note (no implementations required for example) ←
14:05:44 <chimezie> Zakim, what is the passcode?
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, what is the passcode? ←
14:05:44 <Zakim> the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), chimezie
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), chimezie ←
14:05:49 <bglimm> ... seem popular in practise, several implementations
... seem popular in practise, several implementations ←
14:06:08 <Zakim> +Chimezie_Ogbuji
Zakim IRC Bot: +Chimezie_Ogbuji ←
14:06:13 <bglimm> ... Should we publish it as real standard?
... Should we publish it as real standard? ←
14:06:39 <bglimm> ... Would cause more work in terms of test cases, reviews, etc
... Would cause more work in terms of test cases, reviews, etc ←
14:06:44 <Nicholas> I think making JSON an offical standard is really important
Nicholas Humfrey: I think making JSON an offical standard is really important ←
14:06:56 <kasei_> +1 (would also like to see jsonp support)
Gregory Williams: +1 (would also like to see jsonp support) ←
14:07:02 <SteveH> +0.5
Steve Harris: +0.5 ←
14:07:05 <bglimm> ... I would like to hear opinions about this
... I would like to hear opinions about this ←
14:07:06 <Nicholas> will really help adoption
Nicholas Humfrey: will really help adoption ←
14:07:14 <sandro> +0.5
Sandro Hawke: +0.5 ←
14:07:22 <bglimm> Nicholas: We use JSON a lot at BBC
Nicholas Humfrey: We use JSON a lot at BBC ←
14:07:38 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me ←
14:07:38 <Zakim> Chimezie_Ogbuji should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Chimezie_Ogbuji should now be muted ←
14:07:38 <bglimm> ... easy to parse, many developers know it, would help adoption of SPARQL
... easy to parse, many developers know it, would help adoption of SPARQL ←
14:07:39 <chimezie> +1
Chimezie Ogbuji: +1 ←
14:07:57 <SteveH> yes, terrified of toppling over
Steve Harris: yes, terrified of toppling over ←
14:07:59 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
14:08:00 <SteveH> :)
Steve Harris: :) ←
14:08:02 <sandro> yes, that's why I didnt say "+1"
Sandro Hawke: yes, that's why I didnt say "+1" ←
14:08:13 <AlexPassant> never used XML/SPARQL and works only w/ JSON, so also happy to have it as a rec
Alexandre Passant: never used XML/SPARQL and works only w/ JSON, so also happy to have it as a rec ←
14:08:14 <bglimm> LeeF: I see a lot of support on IRC. Is anybody worried about this additional burden?
Lee Feigenbaum: I see a lot of support on IRC. Is anybody worried about this additional burden? ←
14:08:22 <bglimm> IvanH: Do we have editors?
Ivan Herman: Do we have editors? ←
14:08:33 <Zakim> +pgearon
Zakim IRC Bot: +pgearon ←
14:08:44 <bglimm> LeeF: The doc does not need much work, we could keep the note editors
Lee Feigenbaum: The doc does not need much work, we could keep the note editors ←
14:08:44 <pgearon> apologies for tardy arrival
Paula Gearon: apologies for tardy arrival ←
14:08:54 <pgearon> muted
Paula Gearon: muted ←
14:09:36 <bglimm> IvanH: Before making a decision, we should make sure we have editors who take responsibility for the document and the work this will cause.
Ivan Herman: Before making a decision, we should make sure we have editors who take responsibility for the document and the work this will cause. ←
14:09:52 <bglimm> ... We might want to look at this when other docs are in LC.
... We might want to look at this when other docs are in LC. ←
14:10:28 <ivan> q?
Ivan Herman: q? ←
14:10:36 <bglimm> LeeF: I wouldn't make a decision before we have editors, but I want to see how much support this would have.
Lee Feigenbaum: I wouldn't make a decision before we have editors, but I want to see how much support this would have. ←
14:10:37 <LeeF> ack ivan
Lee Feigenbaum: ack ivan ←
14:11:12 <bglimm> IvanH: We have the questionnaire for next steps for RDF and we might have a JSON format for RDF
Ivan Herman: We have the questionnaire for next steps for RDF and we might have a JSON format for RDF ←
14:11:45 <AlexPassant> would also require a return format for Update (simple 'success' / 'failure' pattern)
Alexandre Passant: would also require a return format for Update (simple 'success' / 'failure' pattern) ←
14:12:06 <pgearon> I think that JSON is possibly more used than XML is at the moment
Paula Gearon: I think that JSON is possibly more used than XML is at the moment ←
14:12:13 <bglimm> ... The current JSON for SPARQL format does not cover constructs, but could possibly be combined with the JSON for RDF and cover costructs this way
... The current JSON for SPARQL format does not cover constructs, but could possibly be combined with the JSON for RDF and cover costructs this way ←
14:12:18 <LeeF> ACTION: Lee to work with Axel to identify potential editor(s) to shepherd through JSON document on Rec track
ACTION: Lee to work with Axel to identify potential editor(s) to shepherd through JSON document on Rec track ←
14:12:18 <trackbot> Created ACTION-306 - Work with Axel to identify potential editor(s) to shepherd through JSON document on Rec track [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2010-09-14].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-306 - Work with Axel to identify potential editor(s) to shepherd through JSON document on Rec track [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2010-09-14]. ←
14:12:46 <bglimm> LeeF: If anybody is interested in an editorial role for this please contact me and/or Axel
Lee Feigenbaum: If anybody is interested in an editorial role for this please contact me and/or Axel ←
14:12:58 <bglimm> Topic: Test Cases
14:13:17 <bglimm> LeeF: We can hopefully approve some more test case sets
Lee Feigenbaum: We can hopefully approve some more test case sets ←
14:13:25 <LeeF> group_concat test cases: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JulSep/0272.html
Lee Feigenbaum: group_concat test cases: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JulSep/0272.html ←
14:13:30 <bglimm> ... some from greg for GROUP_CONCAT
... some from greg for GROUP_CONCAT ←
14:14:08 <bglimm> ... there are two plus one from a later date
... there are two plus one from a later date ←
14:14:39 <LeeF> agg-groupconcat-1
Lee Feigenbaum: agg-groupconcat-1 ←
14:14:43 <LeeF> agg-groupconcat-2
Lee Feigenbaum: agg-groupconcat-2 ←
14:14:48 <bglimm> ... AndyS reported that ARQ passes the two older ones
... AndyS reported that ARQ passes the two older ones ←
14:14:55 <kasei_> I think the third duplicates the first, but also adds the separator.
Gregory Williams: I think the third duplicates the first, but also adds the separator. ←
14:15:06 <kasei_> I pass them
Gregory Williams: I pass them ←
14:16:01 <bglimm> LeeF: The difference between the first and the third is that the third uses a non-default separator
Lee Feigenbaum: The difference between the first and the third is that the third uses a non-default separator ←
14:16:37 <bglimm> ... Since the order of the rows in an aggregate is not specified, you can get multiple strings
... Since the order of the rows in an aggregate is not specified, you can get multiple strings ←
14:17:22 <bglimm> ... Greg used a FILTER to test for the possible orders, useful way of abstracting from the fact that we need implicitly have an order
... Greg used a FILTER to test for the possible orders, useful way of abstracting from the fact that we need implicitly have an order ←
14:17:25 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve tests agg-groupconcat-1, agg-groupconcat-2, and agg-groupconcat-3
PROPOSED: Approve tests agg-groupconcat-1, agg-groupconcat-2, and agg-groupconcat-3 ←
14:17:57 <kasei_> +1
Gregory Williams: +1 ←
14:17:57 <pgearon> Seconded
Paula Gearon: Seconded ←
14:18:42 <bglimm> SteveH: You want to abstain as for past test cases?
Steve Harris: You want to abstain as for past test cases? ←
14:18:48 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Approve tests agg-groupconcat-1, agg-groupconcat-2, and agg-groupconcat-3
RESOLVED: Approve tests agg-groupconcat-1, agg-groupconcat-2, and agg-groupconcat-3 ←
14:18:53 <bglimm> SteveH: I'll check them later
Steve Harris: I'll check them later ←
14:19:23 <LeeF> project expression tests: http://dristachi.site/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/project-expression/
Lee Feigenbaum: project expression tests: http://dristachi.site/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/project-expression/ ←
14:19:24 <bglimm> LeeF: We have 7 tests for project expressions
Lee Feigenbaum: We have 7 tests for project expressions ←
14:19:28 <LeeF> zakim, who's on the phone?
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, who's on the phone? ←
14:19:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see bglimm, kasei, SteveH, Ivan, LeeF, OlivierCorby, MattPerry, Sandro, Nicholas, AlexPassant, Chimezie_Ogbuji (muted), pgearon
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see bglimm, kasei, SteveH, Ivan, LeeF, OlivierCorby, MattPerry, Sandro, Nicholas, AlexPassant, Chimezie_Ogbuji (muted), pgearon ←
14:19:52 <bglimm> OlivierCorby: I created these tests
Olivier Corby: I created these tests ←
14:19:56 <LeeF> Andy - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JulSep/0302.html - ARQ passes all 7
Lee Feigenbaum: Andy - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JulSep/0302.html - ARQ passes all 7 ←
14:20:13 <bglimm> LeeF: AndyS reported that ARQ passes these 7 tests
Lee Feigenbaum: AndyS reported that ARQ passes these 7 tests ←
14:21:07 <bglimm> kasei: Are these the test with * in addition to variable lists?
Gregory Williams: Are these the test with * in addition to variable lists? ←
14:21:16 <bglimm> OlivierCorby: I corrected that.
Olivier Corby: I corrected that. ←
14:21:26 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve tests projexp01 - projexp07
PROPOSED: Approve tests projexp01 - projexp07 ←
14:21:40 <bglimm> kasei: My system passes these tests
Gregory Williams: My system passes these tests ←
14:21:45 <kasei_> +1
Gregory Williams: +1 ←
14:21:57 <bglimm> LeeF: Any objections, abstains?
Lee Feigenbaum: Any objections, abstains? ←
14:22:01 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Approve tests projexp01 - projexp07
RESOLVED: Approve tests projexp01 - projexp07 ←
14:22:35 <bglimm> LeeF: Axel suggested some tests for entailments
Lee Feigenbaum: Axel suggested some tests for entailments ←
14:23:04 <LeeF> entailment test cases: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JulSep/0313.html
Lee Feigenbaum: entailment test cases: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JulSep/0313.html ←
14:23:18 <LeeF> bglimm: Axel's question was whether the surrogate blank nodes introduced should be returned
Birte Glimm: Axel's question was whether the surrogate blank nodes introduced should be returned [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
14:23:24 <LeeF> bglimm: ...and the answer is "no"
Birte Glimm: ...and the answer is "no" [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
14:23:49 <bglimm> LeeF: Is that in CVS?
Lee Feigenbaum: Is that in CVS? ←
14:23:58 <bglimm> bglimm: I am not sure whether Axel added this.
Birte Glimm: I am not sure whether Axel added this. ←
14:24:10 <bglimm> bglimm: I will add this
Birte Glimm: I will add this ←
14:24:33 <LeeF> ACTION: Birte to add Axel's two surrogate blank node test cases to CVS
ACTION: Birte to add Axel's two surrogate blank node test cases to CVS ←
14:24:33 <trackbot> Created ACTION-307 - Add Axel's two surrogate blank node test cases to CVS [on Birte Glimm - due 2010-09-14].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-307 - Add Axel's two surrogate blank node test cases to CVS [on Birte Glimm - due 2010-09-14]. ←
14:25:11 <bglimm> LeeF: There were discussions about SPARQL Update, triggered by Andy's review
Lee Feigenbaum: There were discussions about SPARQL Update, triggered by Andy's review ←
14:25:29 <bglimm> ... Is that just rewording or is tehre anything we need to discuss
... Is that just rewording or is tehre anything we need to discuss ←
14:25:49 <bglimm> AlexPassant: It is some rewording and some details for the formal update model
Alexandre Passant: It is some rewording and some details for the formal update model ←
14:26:04 <bglimm> ... we will finish the formal model by the end of the week and get another review then
... we will finish the formal model by the end of the week and get another review then ←
14:26:22 <bglimm> ... I have not yet checked what was identified as issues
... I have not yet checked what was identified as issues ←
14:26:51 <bglimm> LeeF: I am interested in the model and I can check it once it is finalized
Lee Feigenbaum: I am interested in the model and I can check it once it is finalized ←
14:27:04 <bglimm> ... Any other comments?
... Any other comments? ←
14:27:11 <bglimm> Topic: Open Actions
14:27:31 <LeeF> http://dristachi.site/2009/sparql/track/actions/open
Lee Feigenbaum: http://dristachi.site/2009/sparql/track/actions/open ←
14:27:40 <bglimm> LeeF: Whoever has open actions, please check them and let's try to close some
Lee Feigenbaum: Whoever has open actions, please check them and let's try to close some ←
14:28:22 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-77
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-77 ←
14:28:22 <trackbot> ACTION-77 Investigate ISSUE-33 closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-77 Investigate ISSUE-33 closed ←
14:28:30 <bglimm> ... The first is mine, and became a non-issue because we have only few update actions
... The first is mine, and became a non-issue because we have only few update actions ←
14:28:34 <chimezie> Zakim, unmute me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:28:34 <Zakim> Chimezie_Ogbuji should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Chimezie_Ogbuji should no longer be muted ←
14:28:39 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-116
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-116 ←
14:28:39 <trackbot> ACTION-116 Address the concerns in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0024.html closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-116 Address the concerns in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0024.html closed ←
14:28:47 <Zakim> -OlivierCorby
Zakim IRC Bot: -OlivierCorby ←
14:28:48 <bglimm> The second one is actually completed by Chime
The second one is actually completed by Chime ←
14:29:08 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-130
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-130 ←
14:29:08 <trackbot> ACTION-130 Summarize 4 options relating to grouping by expressions on the mailing list and solicit information on what existing implementations do closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-130 Summarize 4 options relating to grouping by expressions on the mailing list and solicit information on what existing implementations do closed ←
14:29:12 <bglimm> Action 130 seems completed since we had iscussions
ACTION-130 seems completed since we had iscussions ←
14:29:12 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - 130
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - 130 ←
14:29:31 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-132
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-132 ←
14:29:31 <trackbot> ACTION-132 Make sure algebra has some position on what aggregate functions are & do (w.r.t. expressions by reference) closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-132 Make sure algebra has some position on what aggregate functions are & do (w.r.t. expressions by reference) closed ←
14:29:33 <Zakim> +OlivierCorby
Zakim IRC Bot: +OlivierCorby ←
14:29:43 <bglimm> LeeF: Action 132 on Steve is about the algebra and how aggregates fit in
Lee Feigenbaum: ACTION-132 on Steve is about the algebra and how aggregates fit in ←
14:29:55 <bglimm> SteveH: Completed
Steve Harris: Completed ←
14:29:56 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me ←
14:29:56 <Zakim> Chimezie_Ogbuji should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Chimezie_Ogbuji should now be muted ←
14:30:19 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-179
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-179 ←
14:30:19 <trackbot> ACTION-179 start an email thread about fregments of propertypaths that could be dealt with in SQL closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-179 start an email thread about fregments of propertypaths that could be dealt with in SQL closed ←
14:30:29 <bglimm> Matt: Action 179 is completed
Matthew Perry: ACTION-179 is completed ←
14:30:47 <bglimm> LeeF: Action 184 on Orri tha
Lee Feigenbaum: ACTION-184 on Orri tha ←
14:30:59 <chimezie> Zakim, unmute me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:30:59 <Zakim> Chimezie_Ogbuji should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Chimezie_Ogbuji should no longer be muted ←
14:31:03 <bglimm> ... that still needs o be addressed
... that still needs o be addressed ←
14:31:26 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-194
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-194 ←
14:31:26 <trackbot> ACTION-194 Collect testcases for negation closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-194 Collect testcases for negation closed ←
14:31:38 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-199
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-199 ←
14:31:38 <trackbot> ACTION-199 Collect test cases for entailment closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-199 Collect test cases for entailment closed ←
14:32:31 <bglimm> SteveH: I haven't done Action 200
Steve Harris: I haven't done ACTION-200 ←
14:33:05 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-205
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-205 ←
14:33:05 <trackbot> Sorry... closing ACTION-205 failed, please let sysreq know about it
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry... closing ACTION-205 failed, please let sysreq know about it ←
14:33:47 <bglimm> LeeF: I am not sure about 209
Lee Feigenbaum: I am not sure about 209 ←
14:33:55 <Zakim> -Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←
14:34:13 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-205
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-205 ←
14:34:13 <trackbot> Sorry... closing ACTION-205 failed, please let sysreq know about it
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry... closing ACTION-205 failed, please let sysreq know about it ←
14:34:47 <bglimm> Sandro has an action to work with greg on SD with multiple graphs
Sandro has an action to work with greg on SD with multiple graphs ←
14:35:05 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-213
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-213 ←
14:35:05 <trackbot> ACTION-213 Work with Greg on an example to investigate what happens when multiple descriptions of the same graph are merged together closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-213 Work with Greg on an example to investigate what happens when multiple descriptions of the same graph are merged together closed ←
14:35:29 <bglimm> kasei: I think we we are fine, we had some discussions, but Sandro had still some concerns recently
Gregory Williams: I think we we are fine, we had some discussions, but Sandro had still some concerns recently ←
14:35:53 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-220
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-220 ←
14:35:53 <trackbot> ACTION-220 Review the federated query document at http://dristachi.site/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-220 Review the federated query document at http://dristachi.site/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service closed ←
14:36:03 <bglimm> LeeF: Action 220 is no longer relevant
Lee Feigenbaum: ACTION-220 is no longer relevant ←
14:36:17 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-221
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-221 ←
14:36:17 <trackbot> ACTION-221 Reformulate Condition 4 closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-221 Reformulate Condition 4 closed ←
14:36:33 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-222
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-222 ←
14:36:33 <trackbot> ACTION-222 Propose rewordings on mailinglist on http-protocol which clarify ISSUE-49 closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-222 Propose rewordings on mailinglist on http-protocol which clarify ISSUE-49 closed ←
14:36:59 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-223
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-223 ←
14:36:59 <trackbot> ACTION-223 Look over http://dristachi.site/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-223 Look over http://dristachi.site/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html closed ←
14:37:06 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-224
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-224 ←
14:37:06 <trackbot> ACTION-224 Check with editors what's the status of docs wrt. publication schedule closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-224 Check with editors what's the status of docs wrt. publication schedule closed ←
14:37:19 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-226
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-226 ←
14:37:19 <trackbot> ACTION-226 Come up with a proposed re-schedule and suggestion on how to proceed until Rec closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-226 Come up with a proposed re-schedule and suggestion on how to proceed until Rec closed ←
14:37:42 <bglimm> LeeF: Chime, do you know about Action 227?
Lee Feigenbaum: Chime, do you know about ACTION-227? ←
14:37:55 <bglimm> Chime: I don't know enough
Chimezie Ogbuji: I don't know enough ←
14:38:00 <bglimm> LeeF: Let's keep it open
Lee Feigenbaum: Let's keep it open ←
14:38:14 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-230
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-230 ←
14:38:14 <trackbot> ACTION-230 Review SPARQL Query document for issues, concerns, praise, and publication-readiness closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-230 Review SPARQL Query document for issues, concerns, praise, and publication-readiness closed ←
14:38:15 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-232
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-232 ←
14:38:15 <trackbot> ACTION-232 Review Service Description document closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-232 Review Service Description document closed ←
14:38:26 <bglimm> LeeF: 230 and 232 are old
Lee Feigenbaum: 230 and 232 are old ←
14:38:41 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-242
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-242 ←
14:38:41 <trackbot> ACTION-242 Update Section 7 to reflect relaxed finiteness conditions for BGP matching extension. closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-242 Update Section 7 to reflect relaxed finiteness conditions for BGP matching extension. closed ←
14:38:42 <bglimm> ... 242, Chime is that done?
... 242, Chime is that done? ←
14:38:47 <bglimm> Chime: Yes, that's old
Chimezie Ogbuji: Yes, that's old ←
14:38:58 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-243
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-243 ←
14:38:58 <trackbot> ACTION-243 Review changes on Section 7. closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-243 Review changes on Section 7. closed ←
14:39:07 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-244
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-244 ←
14:39:07 <trackbot> ACTION-244 Collect http-protocol issues and mail to list, others respond if you see anything missing closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-244 Collect http-protocol issues and mail to list, others respond if you see anything missing closed ←
14:39:14 <bglimm> LeeF: 244 is done
Lee Feigenbaum: 244 is done ←
14:39:22 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-246
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-246 ←
14:39:22 <trackbot> ACTION-246 Check/approve final version of update closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-246 Check/approve final version of update closed ←
14:39:26 <bglimm> ... 246 is old too
... 246 is old too ←
14:39:57 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-247
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-247 ←
14:39:57 <trackbot> ACTION-247 Give examples that highlight possible ambiguities in the resolutions from last f2f concerning ISSUE-16 closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-247 Give examples that highlight possible ambiguities in the resolutions from last f2f concerning ISSUE-16 closed ←
14:39:57 <bglimm> LeeF: Is 247 done?
Lee Feigenbaum: Is 247 done? ←
14:40:03 <bglimm> SteveH: Yes
Steve Harris: Yes ←
14:40:05 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-249
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-249 ←
14:40:05 <trackbot> ACTION-249 Check back with Lee on how/when to schedule theother special TCs closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-249 Check back with Lee on how/when to schedule theother special TCs closed ←
14:40:42 <bglimm> LeeF: Do you know about 252?
Lee Feigenbaum: Do you know about 252? ←
14:40:45 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-252
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-252 ←
14:40:45 <trackbot> ACTION-252 Incorporate explaining wording plus example to editor's draft closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-252 Incorporate explaining wording plus example to editor's draft closed ←
14:40:47 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-253
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-253 ←
14:40:47 <trackbot> ACTION-253 Change networked RDF knowledge to RDF knowledge closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-253 Change networked RDF knowledge to RDF knowledge closed ←
14:40:55 <bglimm> Chime: I added the example, done. 253 also done
Chimezie Ogbuji: I added the example, done. 253 also done ←
14:41:05 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-256
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-256 ←
14:41:05 <trackbot> ACTION-256 Work out http://dristachi.site/2009/sparql/wiki/Design:FunctionLibrary within 2 weeks closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-256 Work out http://dristachi.site/2009/sparql/wiki/Design:FunctionLibrary within 2 weeks closed ←
14:41:19 <bglimm> LeeF: We have a newer action for what 256 is about
Lee Feigenbaum: We have a newer action for what 256 is about ←
14:41:52 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-258
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-258 ←
14:41:52 <trackbot> ACTION-258 Summarize which queries are legal and not in terms of expressions in GROUP BY and expressions in the SELECT clause that deal with group by keys and with aggregators closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-258 Summarize which queries are legal and not in terms of expressions in GROUP BY and expressions in the SELECT clause that deal with group by keys and with aggregators closed ←
14:41:52 <bglimm> LeeF: 258 is done I think
Lee Feigenbaum: 258 is done I think ←
14:42:15 <bglimm> LeeF: Chime, is 264 done?
Lee Feigenbaum: Chime, is 264 done? ←
14:42:23 <bglimm> Chime: We did that
Chimezie Ogbuji: We did that ←
14:42:25 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-264
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-264 ←
14:42:25 <trackbot> ACTION-264 Draft response to KK-1 summarising our internal discussions and changes in the doc. closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-264 Draft response to KK-1 summarising our internal discussions and changes in the doc. closed ←
14:42:38 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-269
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-269 ←
14:42:38 <trackbot> ACTION-269 Put Aggr test cases in manifest format inside CVS closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-269 Put Aggr test cases in manifest format inside CVS closed ←
14:42:44 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-270
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-270 ←
14:42:44 <trackbot> ACTION-270 Put subqueries, prop paths, project espressions test cases in manifest format and add to CVS closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-270 Put subqueries, prop paths, project espressions test cases in manifest format and add to CVS closed ←
14:43:02 <bglimm> LeeF: Paul, do we have any update test cases?
Lee Feigenbaum: Paul, do we have any update test cases? ←
14:43:17 <bglimm> Paul: No, not yet. I'll do something this week
Paula Gearon: No, not yet. I'll do something this week ←
14:43:23 <bglimm> LeeF: I'll leave it open
Lee Feigenbaum: I'll leave it open ←
14:43:43 <bglimm> LeeF: Matt also was supposed to add some tests
Lee Feigenbaum: Matt also was supposed to add some tests ←
14:43:53 <bglimm> MattPerry: I added some
Matthew Perry: I added some ←
14:44:06 <bglimm> LeeF: I keep the action open anyway
Lee Feigenbaum: I keep the action open anyway ←
14:44:27 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-278
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-278 ←
14:44:27 <trackbot> ACTION-278 Write-up ARQ treatment of LET closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-278 Write-up ARQ treatment of LET closed ←
14:44:28 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-279
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-279 ←
14:44:28 <trackbot> ACTION-279 Write-up Mulgara treatment of LET closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-279 Write-up Mulgara treatment of LET closed ←
14:44:37 <bglimm> LeeF: 278 and 279 are both done
Lee Feigenbaum: 278 and 279 are both done ←
14:45:00 <LeeF> ACTION: Lee to mark group_concat and projexp tests as approved
ACTION: Lee to mark group_concat and projexp tests as approved ←
14:45:00 <trackbot> Created ACTION-308 - Mark group_concat and projexp tests as approved [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2010-09-14].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-308 - Mark group_concat and projexp tests as approved [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2010-09-14]. ←
14:45:22 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-281
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-281 ←
14:45:22 <trackbot> ACTION-281 Summarize the issue and mail his proposal to solve it closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-281 Summarize the issue and mail his proposal to solve it closed ←
14:45:29 <bglimm> LeeF: Action 281 seems done
Lee Feigenbaum: ACTION-281 seems done ←
14:46:14 <bglimm> LeeF: Action 285, Paul do you know the status
Lee Feigenbaum: ACTION-285, Paul do you know the status ←
14:46:56 <bglimm> pgearon: I remember the action, but I don't think I completed it
Paula Gearon: I remember the action, but I don't think I completed it ←
14:48:04 <bglimm> LeeF: 293, is that done Chime?
Lee Feigenbaum: 293, is that done Chime? ←
14:48:09 <bglimm> Chime: No
Chimezie Ogbuji: No ←
14:48:25 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-294
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-294 ←
14:48:25 <trackbot> ACTION-294 Add a statement reflecting TL-1 point 1) in the http-rdf-update closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-294 Add a statement reflecting TL-1 point 1) in the http-rdf-update closed ←
14:48:27 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-295
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-295 ←
14:48:27 <trackbot> ACTION-295 Draft response for TL-1 closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-295 Draft response for TL-1 closed ←
14:49:18 <bglimm> LeeF: We closed many, but still have some open
Lee Feigenbaum: We closed many, but still have some open ←
14:49:31 <bglimm> ... any other topics to discuss?
... any other topics to discuss? ←
14:49:57 <SteveH> appologies for next 2 weeks BTW
Steve Harris: appologies for next 2 weeks BTW ←
14:50:06 <bglimm> .... I want to get through the assignment issues next week or the week after
.... I want to get through the assignment issues next week or the week after ←
14:50:16 <bglimm> ... Will try and create test cases for that
... Will try and create test cases for that ←
14:50:29 <bglimm> LeeF: adjourned
Lee Feigenbaum: adjourned ←
14:50:32 <Zakim> -Chimezie_Ogbuji
Zakim IRC Bot: -Chimezie_Ogbuji ←
14:50:32 <ivan> zakim, drop me
Ivan Herman: zakim, drop me ←
14:50:33 <Zakim> Ivan is being disconnected
Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan is being disconnected ←
14:50:33 <Zakim> -Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan ←
14:50:34 <Nicholas> bye!
Nicholas Humfrey: bye! ←
14:50:34 <Zakim> -MattPerry
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14:50:35 <Zakim> -SteveH__
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14:50:37 <Zakim> -kasei
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14:50:37 <Zakim> -LeeF
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14:50:39 <Zakim> -Nicholas
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14:50:39 <Zakim> -pgearon
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